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Old 4th August 2023, 09:56 AM   #1
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Alan,

I couldn't find the name Nenggala in Raffles' book.

Regarding Tumpuling, there is a similar spear in Radya Pustaka Museum, in it's description it is called Cempuling. Wiktionary says, Cempuling is a variation of Tempuling (https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/cempuling), and Tempuling is given as tombak pendek untuk menangkap ikan besar, short spear for catching big fish.
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Thanks Gustav, that all seems together pretty nicely, we can to a large extent ignore minor variation in spellings with Javanese, the language is not a standardised language, it is tuned to verbal communication rather than written communication.

When we look at the way in which these types of spears are referred to by varying names, it does, I think, demonstrate quite clearly why we should not ever be too certain that any one name is the only correct one.
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Alan,

I couldn't find the name Nenggala in Raffles' book.

Regarding Tumpuling, there is a similar spear in Radya Pustaka Museum, in it's description it is called Cempuling. Wiktionary says, Cempuling is a variation of Tempuling (https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/cempuling), and Tempuling is given as tombak pendek untuk menangkap ikan besar, short spear for catching big fish.
Hello Gustav, Can I find the source of this very interesting photo somewhere?
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Old 4th August 2023, 10:21 PM   #4
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Albert,

it's private, but you can trust it as far as one can trust a picture and a description from an older museum, in this case the second oldest in Indonesia, a serious institution for the circumstances.
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Old 4th August 2023, 11:01 PM   #5
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Thank you all for your valuable information

If anyone can find additional information or especially pictures, that would be great!
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Well, pictures of the Tombak, which apparently was collected in Borneo.
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Old 6th August 2023, 10:10 PM   #7
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Alan,

I couldn't find the name Nenggala in Raffles' book.

Regarding Tumpuling, there is a similar spear in Radya Pustaka Museum, in it's description it is called Cempuling. Wiktionary says, Cempuling is a variation of Tempuling (https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/cempuling), and Tempuling is given as tombak pendek untuk menangkap ikan besar, short spear for catching big fish.
Can you by any chance read all that is written on the card of the spear most left?
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Old 6th August 2023, 10:29 PM   #8
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Tombak Luk

Pamor Keleng
Dhapur Cempuling
Tangguh Majapahit
Landeyan Kayu Waru
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Tombak Luk

Pamor Keleng
Dhapur Cempuling
Tangguh Majapahit
Landeyan Kayu Waru
Thank you so much!
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Old 7th August 2023, 12:14 PM   #10
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Albert, you are welcome.
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From another collector, I got the following photos.
Total length: 225 cm.
Length spearhead including sleeve: 45 cm.
Length shaft: 180 cm.
Unfortunately without extra information.
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