Central Javanese keris for comment

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The grain orientation is convention:- ideally the grain should slant down to the front of the atasan, but sometimes the material itself prevents this.

If we use the philosophical interpretation of "why?", it is because a forward slant indicates progression & a positive feeling, a slant towards the back generates a negative feeling.

If we use the Surakarta pakem, dhapur is Jalak Ngore.

I'd prefer to leave pamor comment out of it, there are too many ways to go.

Alan,

I am asking what you want to keep out of.

I find pamor and the esoteric "value" of keris some of the most fascinating things, and as noted, and my Java Keris knowledge is little more than superficial.

What fascinates me about Detlef's blade is the area central to the base of the blade that covers the pesi and the ring of pamor surrounding it, along with the wave of pattern almost gripping it, it really is remarkable.

Can anything be learnt or understand by this aspect, for the layman like me out here... I am always interested to know more, that is the Beggar's Bowl for which the mind is, always wanting to be filled with more...

With thanks

Gav