Figural !

Sajen · 9th March 2023, 08:47 AM

A Putra Satu in ivory, just entered the collection.

kai · 9th March 2023, 10:16 PM

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A Putra Satu in ivory, just entered the collection.

A really finely carved one - congrats, Detlef!

Regards,
Kai

Gavin Nugent · 9th March 2023, 11:20 PM

You've all got some stunning examples and with good pedigree too!

There are only a few true figural examples here, see bottom left corner.

The other image, whilst not a keris hulu and is I guess off topic, it is related to some degree and worth a share within this post.

Sajen · 9th March 2023, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

A really finely carved one - congrats, Detlef!

Thank you Kai, it comes together with this wrongko and a blade but the blade needs first a proper warangan.

Regards,
Detlef

Gavin Nugent · 9th March 2023, 11:37 PM

WOW Detlef, that patina! Those carvings!!! The condition!!!

Sajen · 10th March 2023, 12:06 AM

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WOW Detlef, that patina! Those carvings!!! The condition!!!

Hi Gav,

Thanks! Have to agree by patina and carving! The condition is acceptable, the leaf in front was once broken and it's not a good restoration.
But the ensemble is nice!

Gavin Nugent · 10th March 2023, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Gav,

Thanks! Have to agree by patina and carving! The condition is acceptable, the leaf in front was once broken and it's not a good restoration.
But the ensemble is nice!

Oh, a tragic break. Nice to see that the break away section was retained though.
There are very good craftsmen out there who can faithfully repair these issues, but equally I feel sometimes things are best left alone and preserved as they are.

Sajen · 10th March 2023, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

Oh, a tragic break. Nice to see that the break away section was retained though.
There are very good craftsmen out there who can faithfully repair these issues, but equally I feel sometimes things are best left alone and preserved as they are.

I know people also who would be able to restore it much better but I tend to leave it alone.

A. G. Maisey · 10th March 2023, 12:29 AM

Detlef, there are a number of ways that we can repair this sort damage, some are almost imperceptible, others are a bit clumsy,but when the damage gets to the level that the damage on your wrongko has reached, the usual decision is to change the shape of the wrongko and make it a kacir style.

The Madurese kacir wrongko has a shortened and pointed front (angkup) and a shortened and pointed rear (daunan):-

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13435

I just reread this thread, it is worth a re-read, but post #11 is a good example of something that might have had the kacir treatment.

But if you cannot handle basic carving, then it might be best just re-do the present attempt and use tinted Araldite as both adhesive & filler.

9th March 2023, 11:20 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	You've all got some stunning examples and with good pedigree too! There are only a few true figural examples here, see bottom left corner. The other image, whilst not a keris hulu and is I guess off topic, it is related to some degree and worth a share within this post. Attached Images

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	A Putra Satu in ivory, just entered the collection. Attached Images

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	WOW Detlef, that patina! Those carvings!!! The condition!!!

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Detlef, there are a number of ways that we can repair this sort damage, some are almost imperceptible, others are a bit clumsy,but when the damage gets to the level that the damage on your wrongko has reached, the usual decision is to change the shape of the wrongko and make it a kacir style. The Madurese kacir wrongko has a shortened and pointed front (angkup) and a shortened and pointed rear (daunan):- http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13435 I just reread this thread, it is worth a re-read, but post #11 is a good example of something that might have had the kacir treatment. But if you cannot handle basic carving, then it might be best just re-do the present attempt and use tinted Araldite as both adhesive & filler.