New Acquisition, Mandau, said to be 1800's

JoeCanada42 · 27th February 2023, 10:14 PM

I feel like people are holding out on me, or is it you want me to experience the fun of researching myself...lol... jk
anyways while researching Jian swords just now. I stumble upon a post with a anther ethno sword with a G.
and this sword has the notch like mine and the Tjikeroeh swords

Ian , whats the deal with dohon palay swords?

Thanks!

David · 28th February 2023, 07:50 PM

I'm not sure the "G" on this other sword has much connection to yours as it appears to be stand alone. Same with the coin. Though we might have difficulty reading it, your sword definitely has other letters marked there.
As Kai has already insinuated, you can pretty much dismiss anything the Forged in Fire guys have to say about S.E.A. weapons. They don't know jack about this stuff. For that matter, its a very bad show for blacksmithing technique as well. LOL!
I don't think anyone who has participated in this thread so far is holding back on you, but if i am not mistaken, there are members on this forum who have yet to comment who know quite a bit more about Dayak weapons.

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2023, 06:00 AM

Thanks David,
I take all info with a grain of salt, and ya some of the forging I have seen on FiF is very questionable, to say the least .
as for the marks on my Iban swords blade I feel maybe there was one initial or symbol before the G., the remaining marks I would guess was 4 digits, a date...
some how only the G remains visible, which makes me think the markings may have been applied at different times.

Ian · 1st March 2023, 08:36 AM

Hi Joe,

That's a nice job you did in cleaning the blade. The letter G is clearly visible as well as parts of other letters (?) and numbers (?). One thing to consider is that the G does not seem to align with the numbers, which in turn do not align with themselves. This suggests to me that these were applied some time after the original blade was forged. They would have been added by using a separate die for each letter, with the die being struck into the cold steel. Thus, we may not be looking at a maker's mark but something else.

As for the dahong palay, that's a Filipino sword used by the Tagalog and Ilokano people of Luzon. Dahong palay means rice leaf, and the blade shape resembles a rice leaf. I don't think the "G" on the Filipino sword has any connection to your sword.

Ian.

27th February 2023, 10:14 PM	#1
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	I feel like people are holding out on me, or is it you want me to experience the fun of researching myself...lol... jk anyways while researching Jian swords just now. I stumble upon a post with a anther ethno sword with a G. and this sword has the notch like mine and the Tjikeroeh swords Ian , whats the deal with dohon palay swords? Thanks! Attached Images

28th February 2023, 07:50 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	I'm not sure the "G" on this other sword has much connection to yours as it appears to be stand alone. Same with the coin. Though we might have difficulty reading it, your sword definitely has other letters marked there. As Kai has already insinuated, you can pretty much dismiss anything the Forged in Fire guys have to say about S.E.A. weapons. They don't know jack about this stuff. For that matter, its a very bad show for blacksmithing technique as well. LOL! I don't think anyone who has participated in this thread so far is holding back on you, but if i am not mistaken, there are members on this forum who have yet to comment who know quite a bit more about Dayak weapons.

1st March 2023, 06:00 AM	#3
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	Thanks David, I take all info with a grain of salt, and ya some of the forging I have seen on FiF is very questionable, to say the least . as for the marks on my Iban swords blade I feel maybe there was one initial or symbol before the G., the remaining marks I would guess was 4 digits, a date... some how only the G remains visible, which makes me think the markings may have been applied at different times.

1st March 2023, 08:36 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,360	Hi Joe, That's a nice job you did in cleaning the blade. The letter G is clearly visible as well as parts of other letters (?) and numbers (?). One thing to consider is that the G does not seem to align with the numbers, which in turn do not align with themselves. This suggests to me that these were applied some time after the original blade was forged. They would have been added by using a separate die for each letter, with the die being struck into the cold steel. Thus, we may not be looking at a maker's mark but something else. As for the dahong palay, that's a Filipino sword used by the Tagalog and Ilokano people of Luzon. Dahong palay means rice leaf, and the blade shape resembles a rice leaf. I don't think the "G" on the Filipino sword has any connection to your sword. Ian.