Rapier ID

werecow · 17th February 2023, 06:38 PM

I don't have a working scanner atm but hilt 85 on page 158 of "The Rapier and Small Sword" (dated 1625-1640) is somewhat similar (although it lacks the quillons). Hilt 88 has fewer rings around the plates (but it has the quillons). This shape is deeper, more like that of a Spanish cuphilt but executed in cavalier hilt style (with the rings linked by the curled cross branching structures). An interesting mix.

EDIT: Oh, right, I have a phone with a camera! Picture added.

Not sure why it's sideways as the orientation is normal on my PC.

SwordLover79 · 17th February 2023, 08:57 PM

Fernando: I included close-up photos of the marks on the ricasso in the first group of pix. Those photos were taken with a macro lens with the best lighting I could provide. Short of disassembling the sword, I reached my photographic limits. However, the symbols on the blade are actually quite clear and consistent under magnification. I drew the symbols and added a photo if that helps.

fernando · 18th February 2023, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SwordLover79

Fernando: I included close-up photos of the marks on the ricasso in the first group of pix....

So sorry for having overlooked that. Yet very hard to relate such marks in the ricasso with those known to be Caino's ... i guess

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SwordLover79 · 17th February 2023, 09:08 PM

my example looks very similar to the English Hilt Type B described by Oakschott in "European Weapons and Armour from the Renaissance to the Industrial Revolution", 1980 Plate 13

17th February 2023, 06:38 PM	#1
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 565	I don't have a working scanner atm but hilt 85 on page 158 of "The Rapier and Small Sword" (dated 1625-1640) is somewhat similar (although it lacks the quillons). Hilt 88 has fewer rings around the plates (but it has the quillons). This shape is deeper, more like that of a Spanish cuphilt but executed in cavalier hilt style (with the rings linked by the curled cross branching structures). An interesting mix. EDIT: Oh, right, I have a phone with a camera! Picture added. Not sure why it's sideways as the orientation is normal on my PC. Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 17th February 2023 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Upright now ...

17th February 2023, 08:57 PM	#2
SwordLover79 Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: San Diego Posts: 56	Ricasso Fernando: I included close-up photos of the marks on the ricasso in the first group of pix. Those photos were taken with a macro lens with the best lighting I could provide. Short of disassembling the sword, I reached my photographic limits. However, the symbols on the blade are actually quite clear and consistent under magnification. I drew the symbols and added a photo if that helps. Attached Images

17th February 2023, 09:08 PM	#4
SwordLover79 Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: San Diego Posts: 56	cup hilt rapier my example looks very similar to the English Hilt Type B described by Oakschott in "European Weapons and Armour from the Renaissance to the Industrial Revolution", 1980 Plate 13 Attached Images