HELP WITH PHILIPPINE SWORD HOLDERS

BSMStar · 19th June 2006, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Pictures .
I don't know if these were used in Philippine field agriculture ; but it seems quite possible .

Great piece!

Any idea on the age of this?

Any you are much too young to be Emeritus my friend.

(Maybe semi-retirement)

Rick · 19th June 2006, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSMStar

Great piece!

Any idea on the age of this?

Any you are much too young to be Emeritus my friend.

(Maybe semi-retirement)

These are probably still used today by Indonesian subsistence farmers .

As for emeritus it's a typo ; should read 'emeticus" !

After almost ten years I am out of the harness .

Only an oversight keeps my name on the Moderators list .

Spunjer · 20th June 2006, 06:34 AM

BSMStar,
the term tagub actually mean scabbard, which could be on any type of sword. we're just used to the term applied on moro weapon, but the term is also used in the visayas region and some parts of luzon.

rick,
not quite sure about moro household, but in the visayas, as far as i'm concern, farmers just hang their sidearm where ever it's available...

VANDOO · 20th June 2006, 05:41 PM

THERE IS AN OLD POST ON THESE SOMEWHERE IN THE ARCHIVES THERE WERE PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PICTURES WILL STILL BE THERE BUT THE INFORMATION SHOULD. I CAN'T REMEMBER MUCH ELSE RIGHT NOW OLD AGE OR JUST BRAIN LOCK

I JUST SEARCHED AND FOUND THE POST IT WAS POSTED 6/19/2002 BY Rsword AND TITELED ( INTERESTING CARVED SWORD OR KRIS WALL HANGER. THE PICTURES ON MY 3 EXAMPLES ARE STILL THERE, THEY WERE FROM CENTRAL JAVA NEAR SURAKARTA, TAKE A LOOK.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THESE BEING USED IN THE PHILIPPINES ONLY IN INDONESIA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

BSMStar · 20th June 2006, 06:40 PM

Thanks VANDOO!!!!!

I am terrible at searches so here is the link to help others...

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001023.html

Its good stuff!

But very short.

Are these from Indonesia, PI or maybe even somewhere in-between? Were they worn on the person or hung up on a wall? It seems they are meant to hold a sword... or some kind of weapon.

Thanks Spunjer, I am getting old and senile...

Gee, this is just what I need... a new area to collect (my wife is going to kill me and then hang my new sword from it).

Rick · 20th June 2006, 08:23 PM

These AFAIK are Indonesian ; possibly Javanese in origin .
The flat part goes downward and the piece is worn at the small of the back .

As for the decoration ; it would not be outside the cultural norm to beautify such an everyday item . I'll bet there are guys in America that have flames painted on their riding lawnmowers .

Spunjer · 20th June 2006, 08:26 PM

i got a "quiksilver" sticker on one of my kris scabbards

20th June 2006, 06:40 PM	#5
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Thanks VANDOO!!!!! I am terrible at searches so here is the link to help others... http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001023.html Its good stuff! But very short. Are these from Indonesia, PI or maybe even somewhere in-between? Were they worn on the person or hung up on a wall? It seems they are meant to hold a sword... or some kind of weapon. Thanks Spunjer, I am getting old and senile... Gee, this is just what I need... a new area to collect (my wife is going to kill me and then hang my new sword from it). Last edited by BSMStar; 20th June 2006 at 07:09 PM.

20th June 2006, 06:34 AM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	BSMStar, the term tagub actually mean scabbard, which could be on any type of sword. we're just used to the term applied on moro weapon, but the term is also used in the visayas region and some parts of luzon. rick, not quite sure about moro household, but in the visayas, as far as i'm concern, farmers just hang their sidearm where ever it's available...

20th June 2006, 05:41 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THERE IS AN OLD POST ON THESE SOMEWHERE IN THE ARCHIVES THERE WERE PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PICTURES WILL STILL BE THERE BUT THE INFORMATION SHOULD. I CAN'T REMEMBER MUCH ELSE RIGHT NOW OLD AGE OR JUST BRAIN LOCK I JUST SEARCHED AND FOUND THE POST IT WAS POSTED 6/19/2002 BY Rsword AND TITELED ( INTERESTING CARVED SWORD OR KRIS WALL HANGER. THE PICTURES ON MY 3 EXAMPLES ARE STILL THERE, THEY WERE FROM CENTRAL JAVA NEAR SURAKARTA, TAKE A LOOK. I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THESE BEING USED IN THE PHILIPPINES ONLY IN INDONESIA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

20th June 2006, 08:23 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	These AFAIK are Indonesian ; possibly Javanese in origin . The flat part goes downward and the piece is worn at the small of the back . As for the decoration ; it would not be outside the cultural norm to beautify such an everyday item . I'll bet there are guys in America that have flames painted on their riding lawnmowers .

20th June 2006, 08:26 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	i got a "quiksilver" sticker on one of my kris scabbards