Do you think this is a genuine 1600 AD Knight's sword??

Valjhun · 19th June 2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by S.Al-Anizi

Katana, you do realise that the inlay is gold, and gold doesnt react with time.

Man, I do not knwo what do you see, but to me it looks as some picasso wicca wannabe has painted thoose symbols recently. That is not gold inlaid. With that ammount of rust, the original gold inlad would be history by now.

Mark, thank you verry much for your verry interesting post!

Lew · 19th June 2006, 05:48 PM

This sword blade is circa 1690-1700 it has very similar marks to the blade on my kaskara? Hey maybe Cromwell carried my kaskara into battle

I'm rich lol

Lew

katana · 19th June 2006, 06:32 PM

Lew, thats a very nice Kaskara.....

Michael Blalock · 19th June 2006, 06:36 PM

Not to keep harping on the implausibility of the blade being as old as described, but could a ferrous sword have actually been at the bottom of the Danube river for hundreds of years as described and not rust away?

katana · 19th June 2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Blalock

but could a ferrous sword have actually been at the bottom of the Danube river for hundreds of years as described and not rust away?

It is possible that sediments deposited on the river's bottom, can create a soft layer devoid of oxygen and high in nitrates. If ferrous metal sunk into this layer and was covered up quickly as it sank: it would be possible that the oxidation of the blade would be much slower.

It seems unlikely to be the case with the sword in question though

Tim Simmons · 19th June 2006, 07:22 PM

It is all in the tang. Take a close look. It seems to have missed any ageing what so ever.

RomaRana · 19th June 2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Blalock

Not to keep harping on the implausibility of the blade being as old as described, but could a ferrous sword have actually been at the bottom of the Danube river for hundreds of years as described and not rust away?

Not that the sword in question, but yes they are.

Medieval swords are frequently found in rivers. The silt deposits protect them and form an airtight barrier but they look nothing like that sword.

Finds have been made in (just a few of the many):
Neuenburg lake- Oakeshott page 74 -Records Of the Medieval Sword
the River Aa- Oakeshott records page 48
River Thames - Oakeshott records 26 and The Archeology of Weapons 136

River swords have a hard brown patina and are often very corroded.

19th June 2006, 05:48 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	This sword blade is circa 1690-1700 it has very similar marks to the blade on my kaskara? Hey maybe Cromwell carried my kaskara into battle I'm rich lol Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 19th June 2006 at 05:59 PM.

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katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Lew, thats a very nice Kaskara.....

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Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Not to keep harping on the implausibility of the blade being as old as described, but could a ferrous sword have actually been at the bottom of the Danube river for hundreds of years as described and not rust away?

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	It is all in the tang. Take a close look. It seems to have missed any ageing what so ever.