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Old 3rd November 2022, 05:24 PM   #1
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I would venture Darfur, ('home of the Fur people'), Western Sudan, as the origin.
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Very much agree Richard, note the apparent favor of the geometric 'lozenge' or diamond pattern in Darfur motif (Reed, 1987, attached plate). The symbolism or reason for favor of this shape is unclear but seems well established.
This hilt style is deemed 'of Ali Dinar period' loosely for the 'last Sultan of Darfur'(d.1916).
The figure in the photo is Austrian Rudolf Slatin, who was governor of Darfur and captured by the Mahdi in his campaigns in 1880s. It shows the manner in which these daggers were worn.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 07:46 PM   #2
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Very much agree Richard, note the apparent favor of the geometric 'lozenge' or diamond pattern in Darfur motif (Reed, 1987, attached plate). The symbolism or reason for favor of this shape is unclear but seems well established.
This hilt style is deemed 'of Ali Dinar period' loosely for the 'last Sultan of Darfur'(d.1916).
The figure in the photo is Austrian Rudolf Slatin, who was governor of Darfur and captured by the Mahdi in his campaigns in 1880s. It shows the manner in which these daggers were worn.
Interesting photo Jim. I note he is leaning on a Martini Henry rifle...captured from the Brits??
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Interesting photo Jim. I note he is leaning on a Martini Henry rifle...captured from the Brits??
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Thanks Stu,
Actually he was working diplomatically with Gordon and the British, so he had access to British arms. Interesting story by him in his "Fire and Sword in the Sudan".
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Actually he was working diplomatically with Gordon and the British, so he had access to British arms. Interesting story by him in his "Fire and Sword in the Sudan".
Thanks for the clarification Jim
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thanks again this is really interesting
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