''Old'' dagger

francantolin · 1st November 2022, 05:29 PM

I take this opportunity to show you a ''fany'' ceremonial dirk a friend sold me:
Difficult ( for me and him) to age it and chose a correct price.
Stamp SCOTLAND and RA for Robert Allison ,
Must have silver fittings.
Maybe 1950-1970 made ? ( was the knife of his father...)

The stones ? I read about citrine but these one seems more orange: amber ? Simple piece of tainted carved glass ?

Can we perhaps date it with the SCOTLAND and RA mark ?
Kind regards and glad if specialists can help

BBking · 2nd November 2022, 08:38 PM

African origin for the first one I think ( with european scabbard ? )

Nice faceted ceremonial scottish dirk for the second piece
with the thistle pattern all over on silver (? ) mounts ...

age ???

M ELEY · 2nd November 2022, 11:39 PM

I had considered ethnographic/African as well, especially with the inlaid 'figure 8' brass similar to the circular 'eye' patterns, but I guess the Euro scabbard threw me off. Still, if African, where? Afghan? Perhaps a posting over on the Ethno side.

Yes, I love the second dirk. So hard to tell the age on these things, as many of the older ones remain 'minty'. From what I've seen on auction sites, catalogs and the few books I've got on all things Scot, I would place it in the 1860-1930ish time period unless an expert on cairngorms comes forward to prove what I say/guess as rubbish!

Dmitry · 3rd November 2022, 03:41 AM

I think Mark is right. It looks like a reenactment Scottish dirk, or something similar.

1st November 2022, 05:29 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	I take this opportunity to show you a ''fany'' ceremonial dirk a friend sold me: Difficult ( for me and him) to age it and chose a correct price. Stamp SCOTLAND and RA for Robert Allison , Must have silver fittings. Maybe 1950-1970 made ? ( was the knife of his father...) The stones ? I read about citrine but these one seems more orange: amber ? Simple piece of tainted carved glass ? Can we perhaps date it with the SCOTLAND and RA mark ? Kind regards and glad if specialists can help Attached Images

2nd November 2022, 08:38 PM	#2
BBking Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 66	African origin for the first one I think ( with european scabbard ? ) Nice faceted ceremonial scottish dirk for the second piece with the thistle pattern all over on silver (? ) mounts ... age ???

2nd November 2022, 11:39 PM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	I had considered ethnographic/African as well, especially with the inlaid 'figure 8' brass similar to the circular 'eye' patterns, but I guess the Euro scabbard threw me off. Still, if African, where? Afghan? Perhaps a posting over on the Ethno side. Yes, I love the second dirk. So hard to tell the age on these things, as many of the older ones remain 'minty'. From what I've seen on auction sites, catalogs and the few books I've got on all things Scot, I would place it in the 1860-1930ish time period unless an expert on cairngorms comes forward to prove what I say/guess as rubbish!

3rd November 2022, 03:41 AM	#4
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	I think Mark is right. It looks like a reenactment Scottish dirk, or something similar.