square pommel schiavonnas

midelburgo · 17th August 2022, 06:05 PM

In the illuminated inventory of Madrid Royal Armoury (XVIth century), there are two swords "espadas esclavonas". Nowadays only one of them remains, the socalled G26 in the 1900 catalogue. They belonged to Carlos I and probably were of Hungarian origin. Quillons as rings. I have a good quality copy made by the Fabrica de Toledo of it in the 1960s.

I have also a catalogue of an exposition in Belgium, Hongaarse Wapenraal, where a rich version and a more soldierly version of them are found (XVIth century), although pommels are rather octogonal. Quillons as rings as well.

In the Wien Waffensammlung catalogue I do not find examples, although there are a number of Hungarian weapons.

urbanspaceman · 17th August 2022, 06:24 PM

What is the date of the two similar swords; does it say?

midelburgo · 17th August 2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by urbanspaceman

What is the date of the two similar swords; does it say?

They guess early XVIth. They shall be before Mohacs.

I found some (poor) pictures of my copy. I do not find pictures of the original G26 on the web.

An Hungarian sword was auctioned by Christies. Round pommel early XVIth.

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-5079437

It does not allow me to copy (maybe later with firefox). I have to leave now.

17th August 2022, 06:05 PM	#1
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	In the illuminated inventory of Madrid Royal Armoury (XVIth century), there are two swords "espadas esclavonas". Nowadays only one of them remains, the socalled G26 in the 1900 catalogue. They belonged to Carlos I and probably were of Hungarian origin. Quillons as rings. I have a good quality copy made by the Fabrica de Toledo of it in the 1960s. I have also a catalogue of an exposition in Belgium, Hongaarse Wapenraal, where a rich version and a more soldierly version of them are found (XVIth century), although pommels are rather octogonal. Quillons as rings as well. In the Wien Waffensammlung catalogue I do not find examples, although there are a number of Hungarian weapons. Attached Images Last edited by midelburgo; 17th August 2022 at 06:17 PM.

17th August 2022, 06:24 PM	#2
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 621	date What is the date of the two similar swords; does it say?