Tenegre?

kai · 10th August 2022, 10:37 PM

I'd second that motion, Rob: Congrats, very nice piece! Let me know in case you dare to let it pass in many moons...

I could certainly live without the cord wrap which definitely is a later addition out of the originating culture; now part of its history though.

Most of the traditional archipelago blades come without any guard: Limited personal protection equipment. Heavily committed thrusts tend to be rare with swords; if needed, a thrust can be supported by the live hand...

Regards,
Kai

Rick · 11th August 2022, 01:33 AM

Nice!
Is that a stamp I see on the blade?

RobT · 11th August 2022, 02:06 AM

drac2, kai, Rick,

Let me say that my wife got as good as she gave because she is now the very happy owner of the finest 19th century French navaja I have ever seen.
I am glad to know that it is a tenegre and even more pleased with the possibility that it is pre WWII.
I am going to leave the cord wrap in place. It isn't part of the original culture but it is now part of the history of the blade. Also, it is well done and may actually serve to protect the sheath from damage.
I am also happy to know that everybody has a higher opinion of its combat worthiness. Because I am a big fan of sturdy, maybe I am being too harsh.
The mark by the hilt isn't a maker's mark, it's just a forge mark.
This is a really special blade in my collection, both for what it represents as a gift and for the beauty that it has.

Sincerely,
RobT

drac2k · 11th August 2022, 02:59 AM

Now I see your true genius! First, you get a great sword from your wife and then you reward her by giving your wife a beautiful 19th Century Navaja.
You my friend are the master of mental jiu-jitsu.

xasterix · 11th August 2022, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Now I see your true genius! First, you get a great sword from your wife and then you reward her by giving your wife a beautiful 19th Century Navaja.
You my friend are the master of mental jiu-jitsu.

I second this lol

kronckew · 15th August 2022, 09:23 AM

Nice sword!

The naval coxcombing (fancy knotwork on the railings) is found on most US Navy or Coast Guard ships, and I suspect it's the same on most naval ships worldwide. It keeps the recruits busy. All the ships I've been on, would never got as dirty as the examples I found googling, they'd be redone &/or painted white before the CO (Commanding Officer, ie. Captain) could see them.

RobT · 16th August 2022, 12:47 AM

kronekew,

Glad you like my sword. Your examples show that I guessed correctly. Interesting name for this kind of wrap because initially, coxcomb referred to a type of jester's cap and later became a pejorative for a vain and foolish man. Thanks a lot for the info. I will add the term to the sword description in my database.

Sincerely,
RobT

11th August 2022, 02:06 AM	#3
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 550	Thanks for the Info & Comments drac2, kai, Rick, Let me say that my wife got as good as she gave because she is now the very happy owner of the finest 19th century French navaja I have ever seen. I am glad to know that it is a tenegre and even more pleased with the possibility that it is pre WWII. I am going to leave the cord wrap in place. It isn't part of the original culture but it is now part of the history of the blade. Also, it is well done and may actually serve to protect the sheath from damage. I am also happy to know that everybody has a higher opinion of its combat worthiness. Because I am a big fan of sturdy, maybe I am being too harsh. The mark by the hilt isn't a maker's mark, it's just a forge mark. This is a really special blade in my collection, both for what it represents as a gift and for the beauty that it has. Sincerely, RobT

15th August 2022, 09:23 AM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	Nice sword! The naval coxcombing (fancy knotwork on the railings) is found on most US Navy or Coast Guard ships, and I suspect it's the same on most naval ships worldwide. It keeps the recruits busy. All the ships I've been on, would never got as dirty as the examples I found googling, they'd be redone &/or painted white before the CO (Commanding Officer, ie. Captain) could see them. Attached Images

16th August 2022, 12:47 AM	#7
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 550	Your Pics Nail It kronekew, Glad you like my sword. Your examples show that I guessed correctly. Interesting name for this kind of wrap because initially, coxcomb referred to a type of jester's cap and later became a pejorative for a vain and foolish man. Thanks a lot for the info. I will add the term to the sword description in my database. Sincerely, RobT

10th August 2022, 10:37 PM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	I'd second that motion, Rob: Congrats, very nice piece! Let me know in case you dare to let it pass in many moons... I could certainly live without the cord wrap which definitely is a later addition out of the originating culture; now part of its history though. Most of the traditional archipelago blades come without any guard: Limited personal protection equipment. Heavily committed thrusts tend to be rare with swords; if needed, a thrust can be supported by the live hand... Regards, Kai

11th August 2022, 01:33 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Nice! Is that a stamp I see on the blade?

11th August 2022, 02:59 AM	#4
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	Now I see your true genius! First, you get a great sword from your wife and then you reward her by giving your wife a beautiful 19th Century Navaja. You my friend are the master of mental jiu-jitsu.