Are there examples of kukri that lack the distinctive notch(cho)?

werecow · 23rd July 2022, 03:41 AM

I was fondling my moro keris/kalis tonight - pics attached (sorry about the poor lighting - if anyone is interested I can take a daytime picture) - and I noticed the very cho-like cut-out in the blade. It reminded me of this thread (although I suppose technically it is kind of the anti-thread for it), so I thought I'd ask about it here.

I assume these are related? And if so, is there a connection between the kukri and the kalis? A barong-kukri connection I could see... Both leaf shaped blades and such. But kukri and kalis are quite distinct, and I am not aware of any barong with a cho. It is interesting to see this feature on such different blades.

kronckew · 23rd July 2022, 11:57 AM

I don't think they are related. Parallel/convergent evolution? Drip stops?

Interested Party · 23rd July 2022, 02:23 PM

This is definitely outside of my expertise, but not my scope of interest. Could both be Shiva or trident related motifs? I think parallel development of related ideas gleaned from neighboring cultures could be quite possible, if amazingly serendipitous. Both cultures to my understanding were within or at least peripheral to the Hindu sphere of influence and trade.

I have always doubted the drip stop theory. It seems that if it was necessary or even highly advantageous, we would see more patterns use it in the last 5,000 years.

I look forward to hearing the forum weigh in on this subject.

23rd July 2022, 03:41 AM	#1
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 561	I was fondling my moro keris/kalis tonight - pics attached (sorry about the poor lighting - if anyone is interested I can take a daytime picture) - and I noticed the very cho-like cut-out in the blade. It reminded me of this thread (although I suppose technically it is kind of the anti-thread for it), so I thought I'd ask about it here. I assume these are related? And if so, is there a connection between the kukri and the kalis? A barong-kukri connection I could see... Both leaf shaped blades and such. But kukri and kalis are quite distinct, and I am not aware of any barong with a cho. It is interesting to see this feature on such different blades. Attached Images

23rd July 2022, 11:57 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,222	I don't think they are related. Parallel/convergent evolution? Drip stops?

23rd July 2022, 02:23 PM	#3
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 497	This is definitely outside of my expertise, but not my scope of interest. Could both be Shiva or trident related motifs? I think parallel development of related ideas gleaned from neighboring cultures could be quite possible, if amazingly serendipitous. Both cultures to my understanding were within or at least peripheral to the Hindu sphere of influence and trade. I have always doubted the drip stop theory. It seems that if it was necessary or even highly advantageous, we would see more patterns use it in the last 5,000 years. I look forward to hearing the forum weigh in on this subject.