Rapier pendant, Western Europe (Italy? or maybe Poland), 1570-90

fernando · 28th May 2022, 02:50 PM

Some illustration ...

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fernando · 28th May 2022, 03:18 PM

A high end one circa 1570; Italian ... not Pole

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(Courtesy myArmoury).

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Jim McDougall · 28th May 2022, 11:38 PM

Thanks very much Fernando....I knew what the hanging contraption was but did not recognize this as such, and the term 'pendant' threw me a bit. These are incredibly attractive, and as rapiers are beautiful in their own right, these colorful additions really take the ensemble over the top. Very nice!

fernando · 29th May 2022, 11:05 AM

Jim, i would bet the term pendant is out of (this) context. The word is a galicism from the Latin 'pendere' = pending and, as i always heard of, is only used for jewelery items (necklesses) pending from the neck, or for naming pairs of equal or similar objects. So i assume the implement posted by messia is a 'frog' (rather than a hanger ?), which we call over here 'talim'... or 'talabarte'.

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28th May 2022, 02:50 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Some illustration ... . Attached Images

28th May 2022, 03:18 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	A high end one circa 1570; Italian ... not Pole . (Courtesy myArmoury). . Attached Images

28th May 2022, 11:38 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	Thanks very much Fernando....I knew what the hanging contraption was but did not recognize this as such, and the term 'pendant' threw me a bit. These are incredibly attractive, and as rapiers are beautiful in their own right, these colorful additions really take the ensemble over the top. Very nice!

29th May 2022, 11:05 AM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Jim, i would bet the term pendant is out of (this) context. The word is a galicism from the Latin 'pendere' = pending and, as i always heard of, is only used for jewelery items (necklesses) pending from the neck, or for naming pairs of equal or similar objects. So i assume the implement posted by messia is a 'frog' (rather than a hanger ?), which we call over here 'talim'... or 'talabarte'. .