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A. G. Maisey · 21st May 2022, 08:43 PM

David, Garret's mentor was Go Tik Swan, AKA Panembahan Hardjonegoro(alm.), his principal teacher was a m'ranggi known as "Pak Bei". The period was late 1960's, through to early 1970's.

Nothing in the book authored by Garrett & Bronwen can be considered to be incorrect. There are things in it that are open to disagreement, but this does not mean they are wrong, simply that different people often go to different schools.

As for the symbolism that might be attached to this turi bud, I do not know.

David · 21st May 2022, 09:23 PM

Thanks Alan. As can sometimes be the case, knowing the name of something can sometimes help us understand the thing itself. Up until now no one seemed to know this name in this group (or anything about the meaning of this motif). Now we know the name, but still not the meaning. But perhaps we may be one step closer now.

Sajen · 22nd May 2022, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Thanks Alan. As can sometimes be the case, knowing the name of something can sometimes help us understand the thing itself. Up until now no one seemed to know this name in this group (or anything about the meaning of this motif). Now we know the name, but still not the meaning. But perhaps we may be one step closer now.

Agree complete with you David!

A. G. Maisey · 22nd May 2022, 09:52 AM

If we ever do get the real guts on the reason or symbolism that is attached to this turi bud, I'd put money on it that we eventually find that there is more than a single reason, and more than one way to understand the symbolism.

David · 23rd May 2022, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

If we ever do get the real guts on the reason or symbolism that is attached to this turi bud, I'd put money on it that we eventually find that there is more than a single reason, and more than one way to understand the symbolism.

Yes, seems to be the case with ALL things Javanese.

21st May 2022, 08:43 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	David, Garret's mentor was Go Tik Swan, AKA Panembahan Hardjonegoro(alm.), his principal teacher was a m'ranggi known as "Pak Bei". The period was late 1960's, through to early 1970's. Nothing in the book authored by Garrett & Bronwen can be considered to be incorrect. There are things in it that are open to disagreement, but this does not mean they are wrong, simply that different people often go to different schools. As for the symbolism that might be attached to this turi bud, I do not know.

21st May 2022, 09:23 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks Alan. As can sometimes be the case, knowing the name of something can sometimes help us understand the thing itself. Up until now no one seemed to know this name in this group (or anything about the meaning of this motif). Now we know the name, but still not the meaning. But perhaps we may be one step closer now.

22nd May 2022, 09:52 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	If we ever do get the real guts on the reason or symbolism that is attached to this turi bud, I'd put money on it that we eventually find that there is more than a single reason, and more than one way to understand the symbolism.