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Old 19th April 2022, 10:20 PM   #11
Jim McDougall
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Firstly: Fernando, in the list of blades required of the SB smiths that I include in this thread there is something I highlighted called a Portugall Cutt 40 - 48 inches long with 1, 2, or 3 hollows.
It is quite long at 48 inches; do you know what this is?

Jim, Noel Wells talks about "cutlasses illustrated here" recovered from the 1733 Spanish Fleet and having the BTF on the blade; did he provide illustrations of these swords?
Was Birmingham selling swords to the Spanish at that time?


Sorry forgot to add that page. Birmingham was a recipient of blades from Germany in degree, just as was Spain in this period. It does not seem that Harvey used the BTF until 1740s, though as you have discovered the BTF may well have originated with Oley in Shotley prior to this.

If not mistaken, this drawing of the hanger blade from the 1733 wrecks with running wolf seems a bit out of context with the Spanish fleet. As seen with the hanger from Henrietta Marie, these staghorn hangers were more English than Spanish, and the Running Wolf appeared on blades from Hounslow.
Birmingham wasnt producing much in 1733 as far as Ive known.

Perhaps these details out of context ? we know the H was only on BTF, never on the running wolf, and it seems only SH occurred....there might have been an H only case.
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