large old sword with strange hilt ( crescent shape guard ?)

BBking · 2nd April 2022, 04:06 PM

Hello, Thank you for the messages.

I don't know if it's niello, the black parts seemed goldened before..
eastern european must be the origin but where exactly ?

Francantolin, Thank's a lot about russian or hungarian origin,
it can be a dragon claw with his scales... Dracul sword

I found this Magnate sword who has ''the same '' pommel inserts with stones and foliage decorations on the hilt.

For the small stones, only two more, cf picture of the pommel,
it was not possible to see it , it was all dirty, and it is battered but I cleaned with a toothpic and put a torch and red light came...Alleluiah !! ( no offense )

Fernando, don't know if it is better to move it in the european forum ?

francantolin · 3rd April 2022, 10:52 AM

You're welcome !
Really nice and interesting pommel !!
if it's silver, you can try to open the gem settings without damage it.

I found an hungarian 17th-18th century sword with almost the same multi fullered blade,
with yelman and one fuller going till the tip
a local habit ( or this one was a little shortened too ? )
Have a nice day !

PS: THIS IS NOT A PANABAS

fernando · 6th April 2022, 04:28 PM

Moving topic to the European Forum, as per author's request.

BBking · 6th April 2022, 06:10 PM

Thank you Fernando !!!

I will post better pictures of the blade if I can !

BBking · 6th April 2022, 06:39 PM

Hussar or Pandour engravings ?
sharp old blade...
Kind regards

fernando · 6th April 2022, 08:38 PM

I figure that it will take a highly skilled eye to discern what those faded engravings represent.

toaster5sqn · 6th April 2022, 09:04 PM

A good trick with faded engravings is to open the photo in paint or a similar program and highlight the visible engravings with red or a similar contrasting colour. Best done by the original poster as he can refer back to the actual sword when trying to differentiate between engraving and scratches. once you have the surviving marks easily visible it's amazing how the whole picture starts to show.

Robert

2nd April 2022, 04:06 PM	#1
BBking Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 66	Hello, Thank you for the messages. I don't know if it's niello, the black parts seemed goldened before.. eastern european must be the origin but where exactly ? Francantolin, Thank's a lot about russian or hungarian origin, it can be a dragon claw with his scales... Dracul sword I found this Magnate sword who has ''the same '' pommel inserts with stones and foliage decorations on the hilt. For the small stones, only two more, cf picture of the pommel, it was not possible to see it , it was all dirty, and it is battered but I cleaned with a toothpic and put a torch and red light came...Alleluiah !! ( no offense ) Fernando, don't know if it is better to move it in the european forum ? Attached Images

3rd April 2022, 10:52 AM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	You're welcome ! Really nice and interesting pommel !! if it's silver, you can try to open the gem settings without damage it. I found an hungarian 17th-18th century sword with almost the same multi fullered blade, with yelman and one fuller going till the tip a local habit ( or this one was a little shortened too ? ) Have a nice day ! PS: THIS IS NOT A PANABAS Attached Images

6th April 2022, 06:39 PM	#5
BBking Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 66	Hussar or Pandour engravings ? sharp old blade... Kind regards Attached Images

6th April 2022, 04:28 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Moving topic to the European Forum, as per author's request.

6th April 2022, 06:10 PM	#4
BBking Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 66	Thank you Fernando !!! I will post better pictures of the blade if I can !

6th April 2022, 08:38 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I figure that it will take a highly skilled eye to discern what those faded engravings represent.

6th April 2022, 09:04 PM	#7
toaster5sqn Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 74	A good trick with faded engravings is to open the photo in paint or a similar program and highlight the visible engravings with red or a similar contrasting colour. Best done by the original poster as he can refer back to the actual sword when trying to differentiate between engraving and scratches. once you have the surviving marks easily visible it's amazing how the whole picture starts to show. Robert