A Most Unusual Axe;Prestige, Dance or Souvenir Piece?iece

colin henshaw · 25th November 2021, 07:25 PM

Something similar here from a previous auction, described as African style axes... the same one ??

Ian · 25th November 2021, 10:25 PM

I think Colin is correct that the axe in the OP is the same as in the auction picture. Attached is a composite graphic of the two. Taking into account differences in the backgrounds, angle at which the item has been photographed, etc., these two look very similar even though the auction picture is blurry at this magnification. Note particularly the similarity in rub markings at the end of the handle, caused by a missing thong. It appears that the OP came from a lot of similar African-like examples made with woodworking equipment that was used to turn the handles, rather than them being hand carved.

It's possible that the axes shown in the auction picture were made within the traditional cultures using modern tools and methods. However, those axes appear to be based on several different tribal examples, which makes them more likely to come from a single, non-traditional source.

I think the OP and the other axes in the auction picture are likely purely decorative pieces and made for sale outside the traditional cultures. The thinness of the OP blade is evidence that these were non-functional and purely for decorative purposes.

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drac2k · 26th November 2021, 05:31 AM

You guys are spot on the money; it is the same axe from that lot.

drac2k · 27th November 2021, 02:08 AM

I might add that the 2nd example on the bottom left is a pretty good older example of what I believe to be a Songye axe & while I agree that the 2 figural axes are probable tourist grade, you can find similar examples from, Christie's etc. claiming them to be Luba Status Axes.

ariel · 27th November 2021, 02:34 AM

It is a Recade, ceremonial axe of the Fon people from Benin. King's messengers carried them across the country and proclaimed king's orders. Recade was their mark of authority: their word was king's word.
A very similar arrangement was a golden Paiza, a square medallion given to the messengers of Chinghiz Khan. Everybody was obligated to assist them in any way, shape or form, they had a priority on fresh horses, ahead of everybody else, including military commanders and princes and disobedience to them carried death punishment.
Their closest contemporary analogue is the credentialising paper presented by a new ambassador to the local Foreign Minister. However, fresh horses are not included in the ceremony,

Aluminum implies 20 century, however Dahomey ( former and current Benin) is still a monarchy and who knows whether local kings rely on Recades more than on cell phones.

Duccio · 27th November 2021, 09:03 AM

I think Ariel is right: at the "Petit Musée de la Recade" in Cotonou there is an object very similar to yours on display (https://www.lespharaons.com/2020/01/...re-28-sceptres -royaux-du-dahomey-remis-au-benin-ce-vendredi /)
These are very particular objects, a thread on them would be interesting, even if they are not exactly "weapons" in the strict sense.

drac2k · 27th November 2021, 12:04 PM

WOW, Gentlemen; the "power," of the "Forum," strikes again!Thanks for the info.

25th November 2021, 07:25 PM	#1
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,429	Something similar here from a previous auction, described as African style axes... the same one ?? Attached Images

25th November 2021, 10:25 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	I think Colin is correct that the axe in the OP is the same as in the auction picture. Attached is a composite graphic of the two. Taking into account differences in the backgrounds, angle at which the item has been photographed, etc., these two look very similar even though the auction picture is blurry at this magnification. Note particularly the similarity in rub markings at the end of the handle, caused by a missing thong. It appears that the OP came from a lot of similar African-like examples made with woodworking equipment that was used to turn the handles, rather than them being hand carved. It's possible that the axes shown in the auction picture were made within the traditional cultures using modern tools and methods. However, those axes appear to be based on several different tribal examples, which makes them more likely to come from a single, non-traditional source. I think the OP and the other axes in the auction picture are likely purely decorative pieces and made for sale outside the traditional cultures. The thinness of the OP blade is evidence that these were non-functional and purely for decorative purposes. . Attached Images

27th November 2021, 02:34 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It is a Recade, ceremonial axe of the Fon people from Benin. King's messengers carried them across the country and proclaimed king's orders. Recade was their mark of authority: their word was king's word. A very similar arrangement was a golden Paiza, a square medallion given to the messengers of Chinghiz Khan. Everybody was obligated to assist them in any way, shape or form, they had a priority on fresh horses, ahead of everybody else, including military commanders and princes and disobedience to them carried death punishment. Their closest contemporary analogue is the credentialising paper presented by a new ambassador to the local Foreign Minister. However, fresh horses are not included in the ceremony, Aluminum implies 20 century, however Dahomey ( former and current Benin) is still a monarchy and who knows whether local kings rely on Recades more than on cell phones. Last edited by ariel; 27th November 2021 at 02:46 AM.

26th November 2021, 05:31 AM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	You guys are spot on the money; it is the same axe from that lot.

27th November 2021, 02:08 AM	#4
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	I might add that the 2nd example on the bottom left is a pretty good older example of what I believe to be a Songye axe & while I agree that the 2 figural axes are probable tourist grade, you can find similar examples from, Christie's etc. claiming them to be Luba Status Axes.

27th November 2021, 09:03 AM	#6
Duccio Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Florence, Italy Posts: 64	I think Ariel is right: at the "Petit Musée de la Recade" in Cotonou there is an object very similar to yours on display (https://www.lespharaons.com/2020/01/...re-28-sceptres -royaux-du-dahomey-remis-au-benin-ce-vendredi /) These are very particular objects, a thread on them would be interesting, even if they are not exactly "weapons" in the strict sense.

27th November 2021, 12:04 PM	#7
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	WOW, Gentlemen; the "power," of the "Forum," strikes again!Thanks for the info.