VOC hanger advice

Rick · 15th November 2021, 03:50 AM

The stampings seem so crisp compared to the surface condition...
Agree w/Jim, leave it as it is.

cornelistromp · 15th November 2021, 09:49 AM

I would only treat it with crystalline wax, if you remove the patina it doesn't get any better. I would recommend to remove the wooden grip, this is a recent addition of the wrong model, it looks weird.

it should have a thin spiral grip on it. fe see attached example of a 1790 VOC Rotterdam cutlass and for others please see the thread:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22313

best,

cel7 · 15th November 2021, 12:07 PM

Thank you all for the advice! I'll just leave it as it is. I will also leave the grip alone for now.

kai · 16th November 2021, 11:05 PM

I'm with Rick - compared to the corroded surfaces, the stamping seems exceptionally crisp. This may suggest a later (though also apparently not recent) addition.

If it's done later, it's a pretty good attempt. It does look more like a VOO (rather than VOC) though! Since these stamps were never standardized, maybe the C was just missing from the tool set and they had to use the O twice...

Regards,
Kai

mariusgmioc · 17th November 2021, 08:19 AM

The corrosion is quite deep but uniform and consistent with its age.
The stamp is crisp but it is also corroded consistent with the rest of the blade so I am pretty sure it is original and not a later addition. Also the marking shape and style are correct confirming they are the original.

I am not very knowledgeable in tackling this type of corrosion but I would only clean it with bronze brushes & steel wool and WD40 to remove the active rust.

Peter Andeweg · 17th November 2021, 09:43 AM

Agreed with all mentioned above, a nice blade but too deeply corroded to have it polished, the same for the guard. I think that some handy fellow had made this new hilt, but it sure does not add any value nor aesthetic pleasure.
The shell guard cutlasses or hangers are very scarce, I often encounter VOC marked blades with tribal or European military hilts, but rarely with the clam shell guard.

A good find!

Kmaddock · 17th November 2021, 03:10 PM

Hi
Lovely item in condition I prefer my items to be
Can you post a picture of the peening so we can see if handle replaced recently
Regards
Ken

15th November 2021, 09:49 AM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,064	I would only treat it with crystalline wax, if you remove the patina it doesn't get any better. I would recommend to remove the wooden grip, this is a recent addition of the wrong model, it looks weird. it should have a thin spiral grip on it. fe see attached example of a 1790 VOC Rotterdam cutlass and for others please see the thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22313 best, Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 15th November 2021 at 09:59 AM.

17th November 2021, 08:19 AM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,914	The corrosion is quite deep but uniform and consistent with its age. The stamp is crisp but it is also corroded consistent with the rest of the blade so I am pretty sure it is original and not a later addition. Also the marking shape and style are correct confirming they are the original. I am not very knowledgeable in tackling this type of corrosion but I would only clean it with bronze brushes & steel wool and WD40 to remove the active rust. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 17th November 2021 at 09:28 AM.

15th November 2021, 03:50 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	The stampings seem so crisp compared to the surface condition... Agree w/Jim, leave it as it is.

15th November 2021, 12:07 PM	#3
cel7 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 168	Thank you all for the advice! I'll just leave it as it is. I will also leave the grip alone for now.

16th November 2021, 11:05 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	I'm with Rick - compared to the corroded surfaces, the stamping seems exceptionally crisp. This may suggest a later (though also apparently not recent) addition. If it's done later, it's a pretty good attempt. It does look more like a VOO (rather than VOC) though! Since these stamps were never standardized, maybe the C was just missing from the tool set and they had to use the O twice... Regards, Kai

17th November 2021, 09:43 AM	#6
Peter Andeweg Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Vlissingen, Netherlands Posts: 71	Agreed with all mentioned above, a nice blade but too deeply corroded to have it polished, the same for the guard. I think that some handy fellow had made this new hilt, but it sure does not add any value nor aesthetic pleasure. The shell guard cutlasses or hangers are very scarce, I often encounter VOC marked blades with tribal or European military hilts, but rarely with the clam shell guard. A good find!

17th November 2021, 03:10 PM	#7
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 545	Hi Lovely item in condition I prefer my items to be Can you post a picture of the peening so we can see if handle replaced recently Regards Ken