sharpener with medieval swords

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by Lee

I have never come across the presence of a steel sharpening hone in association with a European medieval sword that I can recall. As David notes, however, very few scabbards have survived.

yes i agree and also.. many times the types of scabbards that survive are not apllways a good representation of all types that exsisted.
i have seen sharpeners in hackmessers and other heaving hunting hauers.. and haves seen it in the backs of some kindjals. but these were stones.

it is true the internet alas lacks more of the details of books..

im curious then when did the sharpening steel in europe appear? i wounder wuat and s the oldest example or depiction...

as to using it on a sword.. it does indeed work for tiny rolls in a fine edge.. if you had no other option.. ive used one on a machete as well and on a sword.. and it.. works although theres better things. but if you use a sword for test cutting and you feel its dulling in some spot it will work aslong as your edgeis fine and not to brittle . so it would be curious if somebody tried it

[David R]

Well, I have put "the Bat signal" up on a couple of other forums, and they reckon in knife scabbards by the late 15thC and on swords by the early 16th. Early days though yet.

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by David R

Well, I have put "the Bat signal" up on a couple of other forums, and they reckon in knife scabbards by the late 15thC and on swords by the early 16th. Early days though yet.

interesting, please do update any find your findings here. would be facinating to see a picture of an example..

im curious when people discouvered to scribe fibe cuttung edges on them like a file the nepali hones are just a flat hard steel with an edge.. the siberian ones are a small narriw rectangle with of hard steel attached to the knife sheath.. both rather differentfrom european ones, but also present in the tools sheaths

, i wounder whats the oldest depection of a sharpening steel being used... how far they date back.. and how far tgeir traditional, preindustrial distribution into the near east was