Sword of the Last Armenian King: 14th century

Rivkin · 30th May 2006, 11:39 PM

Well, as a big mouth guy, I replied on swordforum, basically repeating what I said here. Here I just probably tell 3 anecdotes, two happened with me in real life, 1 is an old georgian story.

When I was interested in nihonto I once saw a picture of a martial artists holding an unusual sword - judging by proportions the blade alone was 41 inch or so. I asked one of the collegues of the martial artist on the photograph about what kind of sword is it. Response was series of "how you can judge a sword based on the photographs ??? How can you ask such disrespectful questions, while the martial artists is a great ...., whose ansestors where strategists during the civil war ? What evidence do you have that this sword ...". Well, I did not get any information on this sword, but I certainly learned not to ask questions in nihonto community, unless one wants to get this kind of response. Just sent you stuff to NBHTK and bow before the great senseis.

Second anecdote relates to an armenian kindjal recently posted on the forum. I have decided to ask one very prominent (probably _the_ most prominent) armenian professor for his opinion on the grammar and language on the kindjal. Him being a dashnak I expected something bad to happen (sorry, my predisposition towards them

), but he was 200% helpful, polite and truly superb in his analysis. However, he and his students, not knowing much about weapons approached this kindjal (qajar kama) from historical prospective and cautiously identified it as probably made in New-Julfa, may be made right post Abbas time. They had only the best in mind, but based on historical arguments they identified the kama as being 200 years older than it most likely is. Trust me, if this would ever appear with his signature, _no one_ would be able to convince the world that there is a shadow of doubt related to this object being early XVIIth century artefact.

The last anecdote is just a georgian joke. There are actually quite a few of them, don't know which one to tell. There is really funny (for me) about great armenian poet-physicist Gazon Zaseyan. There is one about archeological dig, where one can see a poster "Komrades Georgians ! Komrades Armenians ! Please, stop damping your utensils and porcelin in our archeological dig - just because you do so, this place will not become more 'historicall georgian' or armenian".

30th May 2006, 11:39 PM	#11
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Well, as a big mouth guy, I replied on swordforum, basically repeating what I said here. Here I just probably tell 3 anecdotes, two happened with me in real life, 1 is an old georgian story. When I was interested in nihonto I once saw a picture of a martial artists holding an unusual sword - judging by proportions the blade alone was 41 inch or so. I asked one of the collegues of the martial artist on the photograph about what kind of sword is it. Response was series of "how you can judge a sword based on the photographs ??? How can you ask such disrespectful questions, while the martial artists is a great ...., whose ansestors where strategists during the civil war ? What evidence do you have that this sword ...". Well, I did not get any information on this sword, but I certainly learned not to ask questions in nihonto community, unless one wants to get this kind of response. Just sent you stuff to NBHTK and bow before the great senseis. Second anecdote relates to an armenian kindjal recently posted on the forum. I have decided to ask one very prominent (probably _the_ most prominent) armenian professor for his opinion on the grammar and language on the kindjal. Him being a dashnak I expected something bad to happen (sorry, my predisposition towards them ), but he was 200% helpful, polite and truly superb in his analysis. However, he and his students, not knowing much about weapons approached this kindjal (qajar kama) from historical prospective and cautiously identified it as probably made in New-Julfa, may be made right post Abbas time. They had only the best in mind, but based on historical arguments they identified the kama as being 200 years older than it most likely is. Trust me, if this would ever appear with his signature, _no one_ would be able to convince the world that there is a shadow of doubt related to this object being early XVIIth century artefact. The last anecdote is just a georgian joke. There are actually quite a few of them, don't know which one to tell. There is really funny (for me) about great armenian poet-physicist Gazon Zaseyan. There is one about archeological dig, where one can see a poster "Komrades Georgians ! Komrades Armenians ! Please, stop damping your utensils and porcelin in our archeological dig - just because you do so, this place will not become more 'historicall georgian' or armenian".