PAKARANG KALAMANTAN ( BORNEO BLADES ):

Amuk Murugul · 28th March 2021, 10:59 PM

Hullo everybody!

Just decluttering my Bandjar stuff:

- Lading (knife; when used for tapping, it's referred to as 'lading sadap').

- Karis Setjang.

Hope it's of use to somebody.

Best,

Amuk Murugul · 24th May 2021, 10:40 PM

Hullo everybody!

I just discovered this photo; it properly belongs here. I must have either forgotten to post it at the time, or it's posted elsewhere. My apologies.

The main difference in the variants, is the elbow.
Enjoy!

Best,

Battara · 25th May 2021, 01:30 AM

I'm still trying to figure out why the "elbow" - is it to relieve the stress of impact?

Ian · 26th May 2021, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I'm still trying to figure out why the "elbow" - is it to relieve the stress of impact?

I think the angle helps with the slicing effect of the blow. Somewhat like a curved saber--the hand is ahead of the "sweet spot" of the blade, and tends to draw the edge across the subject rather than being a purely chopping action.

Amuk Murugul · 27th May 2021, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

I think the angle helps with the slicing effect of the blow. Somewhat like a curved saber--the hand is ahead of the "sweet spot" of the blade, and tends to draw the edge across the subject rather than being a purely chopping action.

Hullo Ian,

When it is used like a sabre, at close quarters/limited space, it gives a better cut.
However, it may be more convenient to use for everyday tasks (like a golok), by holding it on the blade side of the elbow.
Note that items 2 to 5 in post #1 are the same implements, 2&4 are male, while 3&5 are female (ref. post #9). Items 2&3 are the 'original' from which 4&5 developed.

Best,

Ian · 27th May 2021, 09:59 AM

Hullo Amuk,

Thanks for your concise and helpful comment. Interesting to note the male and female forms of this sword.

I can see how shortening up on the grip would convert the blade to a more klewang style, and better used for chopping. Quite a multipurpose implement.

Amuk Murugul · 24th November 2021, 08:07 PM

Hullo everybody!

Sorry to sound like a broken record .....
I thought I had solved the problem. Apparently not.
Perhaps if I provided a link here, it may finally obviate the issue.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer

Best,

24th May 2021, 10:40 PM	#2
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Tangkitn Datoek variants (ref. post #1, 4. above) Hullo everybody! I just discovered this photo; it properly belongs here. I must have either forgotten to post it at the time, or it's posted elsewhere. My apologies. The main difference in the variants, is the elbow. Enjoy! Best, Attached Images

27th May 2021, 09:59 AM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,360	Good points ... Hullo Amuk, Thanks for your concise and helpful comment. Interesting to note the male and female forms of this sword. I can see how shortening up on the grip would convert the blade to a more klewang style, and better used for chopping. Quite a multipurpose implement.

24th November 2021, 08:07 PM	#7
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Parang Njaboer(Synonyms: Parang Nyabur , Parang Nyabor , Parang Niabur).....AGAIN! :) Hullo everybody! Sorry to sound like a broken record ..... I thought I had solved the problem. Apparently not. Perhaps if I provided a link here, it may finally obviate the issue. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer Best,

28th March 2021, 10:59 PM	#1
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Hullo everybody! Just decluttering my Bandjar stuff: - Lading (knife; when used for tapping, it's referred to as 'lading sadap'). - Karis Setjang. Hope it's of use to somebody. Best, Attached Images

25th May 2021, 01:30 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	I'm still trying to figure out why the "elbow" - is it to relieve the stress of impact?