Filipino cannons

pbleed · 23rd March 2021, 01:41 AM

Let's try these!

Rick · 24th March 2021, 01:39 AM

Peter, can you show pictures of the breeches open and maybe a picture from the rear of each gun looking down the barrel/s? Also what is your opinion of the current mountings; display, or functional?
The larger cannon looks like it was cut from a gunwale which would be a reasonable way to mount a gun of this size. The only thing that puzzles me is how the gun was elevated or depressed.
Thanks.

37mm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/37_mm_gun_M3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordenfelt_gun

Ian · 24th March 2021, 06:48 AM

I agree with Rick. These appear to have been mounted on the railing of a vessel, which is why they were sometimes called "rail guns." Additional pictures would be very helpful, especially if you could show a scale to indicate the size of what we are seeing in the pictures. I've not seen a breech loading lantaka before.

fernando · 27th March 2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

.. I've not seen a breech loading lantaka before.

Its alleged predecessor, the CETBANG ... was

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Battara · 27th March 2021, 03:13 PM

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

fernando · 27th March 2021, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

Which do you mean by this, José ?
You are not referring to the Cetbang of the Majapahit era from my post previous post ...

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pbleed · 27th March 2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

Thanks for the referenced to "cetbang", clearly there was history to breech loading artillery, but this weapon is certainly of the early 20th century in several regards.
I would appreciate specifics that make it look like a modified lantaka. Please tell me what you are keying in on. Thanks

Edster · 27th March 2021, 07:04 PM

It might be informative to do a chamber cast and extended into the first part of the barrel. This would give an idea of the round along with bullet diameter used. Cerrosafe is the casting material used by gunsmiths and ammo reloaders and is available from Brownells among others. It doesn't mess up the gun.

Best,
Ed

23rd March 2021, 01:41 AM	#1
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24th March 2021, 01:39 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Peter, can you show pictures of the breeches open and maybe a picture from the rear of each gun looking down the barrel/s? Also what is your opinion of the current mountings; display, or functional? The larger cannon looks like it was cut from a gunwale which would be a reasonable way to mount a gun of this size. The only thing that puzzles me is how the gun was elevated or depressed. Thanks. 37mm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/37_mm_gun_M3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordenfelt_gun Last edited by Rick; 24th March 2021 at 02:16 AM.

24th March 2021, 06:48 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	I agree with Rick. These appear to have been mounted on the railing of a vessel, which is why they were sometimes called "rail guns." Additional pictures would be very helpful, especially if you could show a scale to indicate the size of what we are seeing in the pictures. I've not seen a breech loading lantaka before.

27th March 2021, 03:13 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

27th March 2021, 07:04 PM	#8
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 415	It might be informative to do a chamber cast and extended into the first part of the barrel. This would give an idea of the round along with bullet diameter used. Cerrosafe is the casting material used by gunsmiths and ammo reloaders and is available from Brownells among others. It doesn't mess up the gun. Best, Ed