recent ? jade hilted indian dagger

ALEX · 5th February 2021, 02:50 PM

Agree with Colin, modern Indian hilt, crude machine work, the material is Aventurine quartz, but they call every green stone a jade of course

mahratt · 5th February 2021, 04:17 PM

Alex and Colin are certainly right. The hilt of modern work.

francantolin · 5th February 2021, 06:07 PM

Thank you for your comments.

That's certainly why the starting price was hopefully low...
Yes the hilt shows aventurescence on some parts of the hilt,
crazy indeed, it was the principal lot in the double page catalogue describing 20-30 other lots,
with a large picture of the hilt and described as jade hilt and 19th century...

sure I didn't believe it was a mughal period hilt or made of thick jade jadeite hilt but at least something correct...

for the sudanese blade idea, it can be, I found looks like on oriental arms
( not the flat tourist blades, this one is half cm thick and well sharpened )

So it ''must'' be arabic, any idea about the date/signature ??

ALEX · 5th February 2021, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francantolin

...it was the principal lot in the double page catalogue describing 20-30 other lots, with a large picture of the hilt and described as jade hilt and 19th century...

Deep ignorance, or perhaps intentional, on auction's part. any specialist will see the traces of electric drilling "dremel" machine on the surface, visible with naked eye, even on photos, so they do not even have the basic, not to mention any specialized knowledge

There is no signature on the blade, the date is not in Arabic, it looks like 1990 (?)

Kubur · 5th February 2021, 07:52 PM

yes it is 1990 and it is a recent Sudanese blade
sorry francatolin...

francantolin · 5th February 2021, 08:10 PM

1990...

Ok,
It's done !
I'll try to sell it...

Thank you for your time and comments

A.alnakkas · 14th February 2021, 08:23 PM

it may look like the date 1990 but its the word الخرطوم Khartoum upside down.

5th February 2021, 02:50 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Agree with Colin, modern Indian hilt, crude machine work, the material is Aventurine quartz, but they call every green stone a jade of course

5th February 2021, 04:17 PM	#2
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Alex and Colin are certainly right. The hilt of modern work.

5th February 2021, 06:07 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Thank you for your comments. That's certainly why the starting price was hopefully low... Yes the hilt shows aventurescence on some parts of the hilt, crazy indeed, it was the principal lot in the double page catalogue describing 20-30 other lots, with a large picture of the hilt and described as jade hilt and 19th century... sure I didn't believe it was a mughal period hilt or made of thick jade jadeite hilt but at least something correct... for the sudanese blade idea, it can be, I found looks like on oriental arms ( not the flat tourist blades, this one is half cm thick and well sharpened ) So it ''must'' be arabic, any idea about the date/signature ??

5th February 2021, 07:52 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	yes it is 1990 and it is a recent Sudanese blade sorry francatolin...

5th February 2021, 08:10 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	1990... Ok, It's done ! I'll try to sell it... Thank you for your time and comments

14th February 2021, 08:23 PM	#7
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	it may look like the date 1990 but its the word الخرطوم Khartoum upside down.