Show us your kampilan =)

Athanase · 25th January 2021, 01:55 PM

Hello,
Here is my only Kampilan, which I think is vintage but not old.
I bought it on a bad photo so I hadn't seen some repair (Fortunately it was not very expensive). Bad photos often lead to good deals, but this time the I lost the bet.

It lacks the sinuous iron bar which serves to hold the bells and coin (here replaced by a brass wire) and a missing part of the guard has been replaced by pine wood with an attempt to continue the missing engravings (I think that the repair was made in France).

The thickness of the blade at the base is 4mm and it is 2mm at the end.

Battara · 26th January 2021, 12:35 AM

Nice ceremonial Iranian/Ilanun kampilan with bells!

Shame the wood repair does not match.

kino · 26th January 2021, 01:25 AM

Another Kampilan to share.

Published in Arts of Asia Jan.-Feb. ‘91

Rick · 26th January 2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kino

Another Kampilan to share.

Published in Arts of Asia Jan.-Feb. ‘91

Kino, do you have any guesses as to the age of this blade? I have a Kris (no gonjo) with almost the same okir work running down the center; I'm pretty sure it's 20thC work but pre-WW2 or post?

Rick · 26th January 2021, 04:22 PM

N/T

Ian · 26th January 2021, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Kino, do you have any guesses as to the age of this blade? I have a Kris (no gonjo) with almost the same okir work running down the center; I'm pretty sure it's 20thC work but pre-WW2 or post?

Rick, I also had a kris (without hilt) that had similar okir work. IIRC, my blade did not have a separate gangya and was not high quality. I estimated my example as being mid-20th C, probably post-WWII. Will try to find a file picture.

P.S. Rick, for comparison I tried to send you a (poor quality) picture of mine via PM -- but PM does not allow attachments

So it's attached here for comparison. Not sure that it adds much to discussion of the kampilan posted by Kino. It's an old file pic and poor quality, but I think it shows the engraving on the blade OK.
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Rick · 26th January 2021, 11:08 PM

Ian, yes. but the okir runs all the way to the point.
I wonder if the two krisses and the Kampilan came from the same maker.

kino · 27th January 2021, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Kino, do you have any guesses as to the age of this blade? I have a Kris (no gonjo) with almost the same okir work running down the center; I'm pretty sure it's 20thC work but pre-WW2 or post?

No idea Rick. Several years ago I contacted Claremont College to inquire about the okirred Kampilan blade, since it has an acquisition number and the donors name, I thought I could at least get an acquisition date. I never got anywhere. If I had to guess, early 20th century.

The one pictured above has an old Spanish colonial coins, but that doesn’t really tells the swords age, just the coins age.

DaveS had a similar bladed Kampilan that showed lamination patterns.

Here’s a bare blade that DaveS gifted over 10 yrs ago.

Athanase · 26th January 2021, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Nice ceremonial Iranian/Ilanun kampilan with bells!

Shame the wood repair does not match.

Thank you very much for the informations.
Can you estimate the age?

Battara · 27th January 2021, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Athanase

Thank you very much for the informations.
Can you estimate the age?

Probably mid to late 19c

25th January 2021, 01:55 PM	#1
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 417	Hello, Here is my only Kampilan, which I think is vintage but not old. I bought it on a bad photo so I hadn't seen some repair (Fortunately it was not very expensive). Bad photos often lead to good deals, but this time the I lost the bet. It lacks the sinuous iron bar which serves to hold the bells and coin (here replaced by a brass wire) and a missing part of the guard has been replaced by pine wood with an attempt to continue the missing engravings (I think that the repair was made in France). The thickness of the blade at the base is 4mm and it is 2mm at the end. Attached Images

26th January 2021, 01:25 AM	#3
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Another Kampilan to share. Published in Arts of Asia Jan.-Feb. ‘91 Attached Images

26th January 2021, 04:22 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	N/T Attached Images

26th January 2021, 12:35 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Nice ceremonial Iranian/Ilanun kampilan with bells! Shame the wood repair does not match.

26th January 2021, 11:08 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Ian, yes. but the okir runs all the way to the point. I wonder if the two krisses and the Kampilan came from the same maker.