New Keris Owner

[kai]

And she absolutely saw the keris stand on it's tip without support.

That's a very common stunt which can be reproduced with a little practise - more physics than magic involved here...

It seems like you're already hooked to the keris world - welcome! You'll find loads of info in the archives (don't overlook the old forum even though some pics are now missing).

Regards,
Kai

[scatteredminds]

I talked with my sister tonight. She told me the price she paid for the Keris. Either I have an unbelievable sword that is 100 years old and was worth the price or she got ripped off big time. I am in the process of getting some very clear pictures of all sections of the keris and will post them tomorrow. I have also emailed someone at a major university in my city to get some more help on this blade. I love the keris but $500.00u.s. is a lot to pay for a blade.

[Rick]

Here's my take on this .

The money has been spent ; you like the keris . Whether she was had or not is a moot point at this stage in the game .

Move past the money thing and concentrate on becoming an astute keris collector .

Also realise that she must love you a lot to drop five C's on a gift to make you happy.

[scatteredminds]

Your right Rick. Let the learning begin!

[Alam Shah]

Welcome scatteredminds, Like the rest of the gang, awaiting for clearer pictures.

Kai,
Afaik, blade standing on it's tip have 2 methods. The physics method, like you mentioned, balancing on its tip with no magic required and the esoteric method supposedly from horizontal position rising up to a vertical position.

Btw, congrats Kai on your new bahari... a lovely blade.

scatteredminds,
If your sister witnessed the esoteric method, then esoterically speaking, the blade might have been 'imbued' to enable it to stand. This is normally done to demonstrate that the blade had been given supernatural capabilities. Referenced from Bambang Hasrinuksmo's book, it is said that the so-called 'imbued power' might be for a specific purpose.

Now, for an example of the balancing act method, follow the link.
http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Hope it helps. Btw, the keris looks like a good keris to me.

[kai]

Hello Alam Shah,

Afaik, blade standing on it's tip have 2 methods. The physics method, like you mentioned, balancing on its tip with no magic required and the esoteric method supposedly from horizontal position rising up to a vertical position.

So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Btw, congrats Kai on your new bahari... a lovely blade.

Thanks! I'm kinda sorry that Adni and I were so close. (OTOH, I've been overbid by a few cents once...)

BTW, you also got a great deal on that MK patrem, I think... Please post pics once it arrives!

Regards,
Kai

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Alam Shah,
So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Kai, even if i were to see the "esoteric" method performed i would remain highly skeptical. I have the pleasure of knowing a few good stage magicians. Any of them could easily accomplish this as an illustion with very little preparation.
Understand that i am a great believer in the esoteric and magick. But i have also seen an extraordinary amount of charlatans in this field. I am automatically wary of anyone who feels the need to do tricks with a keris to "prove" it's esoteric powers.

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by kai

So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Well, I haven't seen any. But then as Nechesh said, even if you have, it's still "remain highly skeptical". I will not ponder on the esoteric part...it's quite subjective. Let's ponder into the balancing aspect, it's quite interesting and fun.

BTW, you also got a great deal on that MK patrem, I think... Please post pics once it arrives!

Just collected it today. I guess it's a good deal. Will post it in a new thread. Something to ask.

Alam Shah