New Keris Owner

Emanuel · 16th May 2006, 03:34 PM

Haha! The Canadian Keris Club is growing!!

Hello scatteredminds, welcome to this great forum. Nice keris, dapur brodjol I think and pamor kulit semangka? I have just barely started collecting, and my knowledge of keris is limited, so I can't tell how old this keris is. I'm sure the many seasoned collectors on this forum will provide plenty of info. I think they'll first ask for some more detailed pictures to ascertain the pamor on the blade. Could you also show the ukiran -handle?

Regards,
Emanuel

doecon · 16th May 2006, 03:52 PM

Hi scattered

Welcome back again, I thought the "problem" was already solved on the swordforum

In case you want serious opinions from people here, I recommend you take some better pictures first.

I agree with Rick, from a blurry distance it looks like scattered rice grains.
I sincerely hope its not a evil keris, but you never know

Did you hear it rattle in the scabbard already? Some keris are said having those special powers.

In case you're looking for a value indication just check the closed items on eBay, you find plenty similar keris.

scatteredminds · 16th May 2006, 06:08 PM

Wow...thanks for all the encouraging help. And I really appreciate the [point about the money...it's spent and I love the keris. I am very excited to be part of this forum and I will stick around to sit at the feet of experts and learn a lot. My goal is to send you very detailed and clear pictures of the whole keris. As for my sister. She is a very savvy person who lived in the area for 10 years. She would have had her driver with her who would not have sent her to a tourist trap. She would have made sure the guard and the piece were true. And she absolutely saw the keris stand on it's tip without support. I love this place ! talk to you soon.

nechesh · 16th May 2006, 06:41 PM

I have a feeling that when we see a better picture of this keris the pamor might turn out to be "golden rain" or some variation there of.

I also doubt you've got an "evil" keris there.

If the keris pleases you very little else matters.

Henk · 16th May 2006, 07:09 PM

Welcome to the forum Scatteredminds.

I join the question for more and better pictures. First impression is a lovely keris and certainly not a tourist toy.
Aging a keris blade is very difficult, but 75 to 100 years is a very good possibility.

Pamor beras or wos wutah is at he moment the best guess but like Nechesh said who knows what we see on a sharp picture. The scabbard has wrangka gayaman, Yogjakarta style, the dress for daily use. If correct the ukiran is Yogjakarta style too.

Wished I had a sister coming up with such a keris.

kai · 16th May 2006, 10:12 PM

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And she absolutely saw the keris stand on it's tip without support.

That's a very common stunt which can be reproduced with a little practise - more physics than magic involved here...

It seems like you're already hooked to the keris world - welcome! You'll find loads of info in the archives (don't overlook the old forum even though some pics are now missing).

Regards,
Kai

scatteredminds · 17th May 2006, 03:04 AM

I talked with my sister tonight. She told me the price she paid for the Keris. Either I have an unbelievable sword that is 100 years old and was worth the price or she got ripped off big time. I am in the process of getting some very clear pictures of all sections of the keris and will post them tomorrow. I have also emailed someone at a major university in my city to get some more help on this blade. I love the keris but $500.00u.s. is a lot to pay for a blade.

Rick · 17th May 2006, 03:54 AM

Here's my take on this .

The money has been spent ; you like the keris . Whether she was had or not is a moot point at this stage in the game .

Move past the money thing and concentrate on becoming an astute keris collector .

Also realise that she must love you a lot to drop five C's on a gift to make you happy.

scatteredminds · 17th May 2006, 04:04 AM

Your right Rick. Let the learning begin!

16th May 2006, 03:52 PM	#2
doecon Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 63	Deja vu Hi scattered Welcome back again, I thought the "problem" was already solved on the swordforum In case you want serious opinions from people here, I recommend you take some better pictures first. I agree with Rick, from a blurry distance it looks like scattered rice grains. I sincerely hope its not a evil keris, but you never know Did you hear it rattle in the scabbard already? Some keris are said having those special powers. In case you're looking for a value indication just check the closed items on eBay, you find plenty similar keris.

16th May 2006, 03:34 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Haha! The Canadian Keris Club is growing!! Hello scatteredminds, welcome to this great forum. Nice keris, dapur brodjol I think and pamor kulit semangka? I have just barely started collecting, and my knowledge of keris is limited, so I can't tell how old this keris is. I'm sure the many seasoned collectors on this forum will provide plenty of info. I think they'll first ask for some more detailed pictures to ascertain the pamor on the blade. Could you also show the ukiran -handle? Regards, Emanuel

16th May 2006, 06:08 PM	#3
scatteredminds Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Wow...thanks for all the encouraging help. And I really appreciate the [point about the money...it's spent and I love the keris. I am very excited to be part of this forum and I will stick around to sit at the feet of experts and learn a lot. My goal is to send you very detailed and clear pictures of the whole keris. As for my sister. She is a very savvy person who lived in the area for 10 years. She would have had her driver with her who would not have sent her to a tourist trap. She would have made sure the guard and the piece were true. And she absolutely saw the keris stand on it's tip without support. I love this place ! talk to you soon.

16th May 2006, 06:41 PM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I have a feeling that when we see a better picture of this keris the pamor might turn out to be "golden rain" or some variation there of. I also doubt you've got an "evil" keris there. If the keris pleases you very little else matters.

16th May 2006, 07:09 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Welcome to the forum Scatteredminds. I join the question for more and better pictures. First impression is a lovely keris and certainly not a tourist toy. Aging a keris blade is very difficult, but 75 to 100 years is a very good possibility. Pamor beras or wos wutah is at he moment the best guess but like Nechesh said who knows what we see on a sharp picture. The scabbard has wrangka gayaman, Yogjakarta style, the dress for daily use. If correct the ukiran is Yogjakarta style too. Wished I had a sister coming up with such a keris.

17th May 2006, 03:04 AM	#7
scatteredminds Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	I talked with my sister tonight. She told me the price she paid for the Keris. Either I have an unbelievable sword that is 100 years old and was worth the price or she got ripped off big time. I am in the process of getting some very clear pictures of all sections of the keris and will post them tomorrow. I have also emailed someone at a major university in my city to get some more help on this blade. I love the keris but $500.00u.s. is a lot to pay for a blade.

17th May 2006, 03:54 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	Here's my take on this . The money has been spent ; you like the keris . Whether she was had or not is a moot point at this stage in the game . Move past the money thing and concentrate on becoming an astute keris collector . Also realise that she must love you a lot to drop five C's on a gift to make you happy.

17th May 2006, 04:04 AM	#9
scatteredminds Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Your right Rick. Let the learning begin!