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24th June 2020, 02:23 AM
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And then... “ indian ricasso” and a slit at the mouth of the scabbard to accommodate the curvature of the blade...
The more one looks at it , the more one gets confused. |
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24th June 2020, 09:02 AM
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Ariel,
Is the pommel cloven like the Afghan sabres? Gavin |
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24th June 2020, 09:22 AM
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The bolster and grip (shashka like?) look very Afghan to me, and the scabbard has some indian flavor to it that wouldn't surprise me on an Afghan weapon. However, I can't see anything that looks typically Algerian on this saber 🤔
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24th June 2020, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
....Afghan, and Caucasian, Turkish, Greek, Cretan... |
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24th June 2020, 09:54 AM
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Whatever it is, I like it!
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24th June 2020, 11:23 AM
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No, not cloven.
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24th June 2020, 11:55 AM
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A bit like this one then......
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24th June 2020, 12:38 PM
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A bit... But this one is what Lebedynsky called a " pseudo-shashka" from one of the Central Asian Khanates.
At the beginning of this thread I have casually mentioned Elgood's Greece book as a source of attribution. Memory failed me: I went through that book and could not find it, although I distinctly remember the image. I went through several books and could not find an attribution to Algiers. Gavin also supported the Algerean origin. Gavin, can you provide a reference, please? Meanwhile, the closest thing I could find is the very same book by Lebedynsky ( " Les Armes Orientales", p. 68). Both are guardless ( just like mine) and just as short ( compared to the handles) and are labeled as Ottoman, mixes of Pala blade with yataghan mounts (E) and Pala blade with Caucasian shashka mounts (F). Both scabbards are distinctly different, with suspension rings, whereas mine was carried tucked under the belt ( Khyber-like). |
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