Assistance in translating an inscription on a yataghan.

kwiatek · 5th June 2020, 11:03 PM

It’s inscribed with the name of the owner, though this is crudely written and I have a hard time guessing what it might be. A guess is “Mikha’il” but I’m very far from sure.

صاحبه ومالك ملل حيل(ميخائيل ؟) ١٢٧٥

“It’s owner and the possessor... (Mikha’il?) 1275 (1858-9)”

The rest are the names of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and their dog:

“Yamliha, Maksalina, Mislina, Marnush, Dabarnush, Shazanush, Kafashtatayyush, Qitmir”

OsobistGB · 7th June 2020, 09:09 PM

Fantastic job , kwiatek !!!
Thanks a lot for the translation!According to the inscription, it is possible that it was owned by a christian?
The name "Mikhail" is slavic and the "Seven Sleepers of Ephesus" are Christian symbols if I'm not mistaken?

kwiatek · 7th June 2020, 11:02 PM

A pleasure. I’m really far from sure about the reading of the name as “Mikha’il”. It’s very unclear what it is, I probably shouldn’t have suggested anything. The Seven Sleepers are an Islamic tradition too, they’re in the Qur’an as the Ashab al-Kahf (the People of the Cave). Though the story had it’s origin in Christian martyrology, I’m not sure how important or well-known it continued to be in Christian tradition in fact

5th June 2020, 11:03 PM	#1
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	It’s inscribed with the name of the owner, though this is crudely written and I have a hard time guessing what it might be. A guess is “Mikha’il” but I’m very far from sure. صاحبه ومالك ملل حيل(ميخائيل ؟) ١٢٧٥ “It’s owner and the possessor... (Mikha’il?) 1275 (1858-9)” The rest are the names of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and their dog: “Yamliha, Maksalina, Mislina, Marnush, Dabarnush, Shazanush, Kafashtatayyush, Qitmir”

7th June 2020, 09:09 PM	#2
OsobistGB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 95	Fantastic job , kwiatek !!! Thanks a lot for the translation!According to the inscription, it is possible that it was owned by a christian? The name "Mikhail" is slavic and the "Seven Sleepers of Ephesus" are Christian symbols if I'm not mistaken?

7th June 2020, 11:02 PM	#3
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	A pleasure. I’m really far from sure about the reading of the name as “Mikha’il”. It’s very unclear what it is, I probably shouldn’t have suggested anything. The Seven Sleepers are an Islamic tradition too, they’re in the Qur’an as the Ashab al-Kahf (the People of the Cave). Though the story had it’s origin in Christian martyrology, I’m not sure how important or well-known it continued to be in Christian tradition in fact