Mataram Wedung

Athanase · 5th April 2020, 03:02 PM

Just to compare, here is my Wedung. It is of course much more recent (I suppose XIXth century). The previous owner polished the blade but it does not seem to have pamor.

David · 5th April 2020, 06:54 PM

Thanks for posting Athanase. Yes, this looks like a nice old wedung and i think 19th century may well be correct. I don't really no enough about them to be completely accurate, but i suspect this is a Surakarta form from others i can compare it to, though i might be missing some subtlety of form that places it elsewhere. A shame someone saw fit to polish the blade. If you could manage to stain the blade i believe it would have a better look.

ariel · 5th April 2020, 09:40 PM

Here is mine. Seems to be pretty old and fully original. Some wood got rotten, horn hook was broken and repaired who knows when.
Any guess-timates of age?

A. G. Maisey · 5th April 2020, 09:45 PM

I'd give both as Surakarta, and both as 19th century.

Athanase, if this wedung was mine I'd be using cold gun blue on it. Repeated applications will give a very deep blue, approaching black. It is even possible that there might be a metal treatment that will blacken it. Try sculptors supplies for a black treatment, and gun shops for the cold blue.

ariel · 5th April 2020, 10:39 PM

Thanks Alan.

A. G. Maisey · 6th April 2020, 12:12 AM

You are most welcome Ariel.

Sajen · 6th April 2020, 10:43 AM

A very nice and fairly old example David! Now I know that this slender wedung blades attributed to Mataram!

Here you can see my example, not so old: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=wedung

Regards,
Detlef

5th April 2020, 03:02 PM	#1
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 417	Just to compare, here is my Wedung. It is of course much more recent (I suppose XIXth century). The previous owner polished the blade but it does not seem to have pamor. Attached Images

5th April 2020, 09:40 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Here is mine. Seems to be pretty old and fully original. Some wood got rotten, horn hook was broken and repaired who knows when. Any guess-timates of age? Attached Images

5th April 2020, 06:54 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	Thanks for posting Athanase. Yes, this looks like a nice old wedung and i think 19th century may well be correct. I don't really no enough about them to be completely accurate, but i suspect this is a Surakarta form from others i can compare it to, though i might be missing some subtlety of form that places it elsewhere. A shame someone saw fit to polish the blade. If you could manage to stain the blade i believe it would have a better look.

5th April 2020, 09:45 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	I'd give both as Surakarta, and both as 19th century. Athanase, if this wedung was mine I'd be using cold gun blue on it. Repeated applications will give a very deep blue, approaching black. It is even possible that there might be a metal treatment that will blacken it. Try sculptors supplies for a black treatment, and gun shops for the cold blue.

5th April 2020, 10:39 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Thanks Alan.

6th April 2020, 12:12 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	You are most welcome Ariel.

6th April 2020, 10:43 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	A very nice and fairly old example David! Now I know that this slender wedung blades attributed to Mataram! Here you can see my example, not so old: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=wedung Regards, Detlef