Minasbad, Tenegre?

Ian · 27th March 2020, 03:46 AM

And one more that may not be as old as some of the examples shown here.

Ian

Sajen · 27th March 2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

And one more that may not be as old as some of the examples shown here.

Hi Ian,
Nice example!

Can you provide a close-up from the handle? I assume that the spine is similar thick as by the other examples?
It seems that you now convinced.

Maybe Xas will be able to tell us something to the other both examples I've shown in post #6. Both blades are much more thin at the spine (attached picture show one of them with two binakla) and what I have noticed, the handle deities don't have the ears all the binakla handles show. I assume they come from an other Bicol region.

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 27th March 2020, 11:51 AM

Hi Detlef,

That one is in storage and I will need to find it for more pictures. Don't recall if it is very thick at forte. I think it is another example of what we have been looking at in this thread.

Ian

Sajen · 27th March 2020, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

That one is in storage and I will need to find it for more pictures. Don't recall if it is very thick at forte. I think it is another example of what we have been looking at in this thread.

Hi Ian,

I think that you will find that it's similar thick at the forte since I am sure that it is indeed a another example however we name it.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 27th March 2020, 12:39 PM

Here a overview of all similar examples which could be maybe named binakla we have suitable pictures from.

BTW, I have found that my two examples I have by hand have a tang which went complete through the handle. It was difficult to determine since the ends are rotted away.

Sajen · 27th March 2020, 01:05 PM

What we have until now:

1. The handle is from wood or horn and shows a deity with a teeth showing grin
(one example is simplified), the ears are visible. From 7 examples have three
finger grooves.

2. The tang went through the hilt and is peened at top.

3. The blade spine is very thick near the handle (over 10 mm).

4. The blade shows a "strangling" approx. 20 mm after the handle and broaden
until the blade clipped again to the point. The clipped point can be longer or
also very small (Robert's example).

Sajen · 27th March 2020, 04:05 PM

Here a new taken picture from the two examples I have by hand side by side.

Upper one:
Overall length: 59,9 cm
Blade length: 47 cm
Max. width: 3,8 cm
Thickness behind handle: 11,4 mm

Lower one:
Overall length: 58,8 cm
Blade length: 45,5 cm
Max. width: 3,5 cm
Thickness behind handle: 11,9 mm

27th March 2020, 03:46 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	And one more that may not be as old as some of the examples shown here. Ian Attached Images

27th March 2020, 12:39 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here a overview of all similar examples which could be maybe named binakla we have suitable pictures from. BTW, I have found that my two examples I have by hand have a tang which went complete through the handle. It was difficult to determine since the ends are rotted away. Attached Images Last edited by Sajen; 28th March 2020 at 10:19 AM. Reason: add picture

27th March 2020, 04:05 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here a new taken picture from the two examples I have by hand side by side. Upper one: Overall length: 59,9 cm Blade length: 47 cm Max. width: 3,8 cm Thickness behind handle: 11,4 mm Lower one: Overall length: 58,8 cm Blade length: 45,5 cm Max. width: 3,5 cm Thickness behind handle: 11,9 mm Attached Images

27th March 2020, 11:51 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Hi Detlef, That one is in storage and I will need to find it for more pictures. Don't recall if it is very thick at forte. I think it is another example of what we have been looking at in this thread. Ian

27th March 2020, 01:05 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	What we have until now: 1. The handle is from wood or horn and shows a deity with a teeth showing grin (one example is simplified), the ears are visible. From 7 examples have three finger grooves. 2. The tang went through the hilt and is peened at top. 3. The blade spine is very thick near the handle (over 10 mm). 4. The blade shows a "strangling" approx. 20 mm after the handle and broaden until the blade clipped again to the point. The clipped point can be longer or also very small (Robert's example). Last edited by Sajen; 28th March 2020 at 10:38 AM.