Minasbad, Tenegre?

Sajen · 26th March 2020, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Completely agreed with Detlef and Jose. To add- I believe this particular antique sword (I'd say pre-ww2) comes from Iriga, Camarines Sur, one of the provinces in the Bicol region. Iriga is reputed to be the oldest among the many smithing towns in Bicol; they would call this blade profile as 'binakla.' Roughly translated, it means 'to be made gay.' The reason for this label is that the blade is a cross-breed between a minasbad and a ginunting (ginunting is generally a pointed-tip blade, with different variations per town). The foremost indicator of a binakla is a clip-point. I'm attaching a sample of a vintage binakla, as gleaned from the Facebook page "The Minasbad Shop."

The owner of the Minasbad Shop also explained that the reason why the sword is treated as 'gay' is because it's a union of male and female. The minasbad is viewed in Bicol blade culture as male, while the ginunting is female.

Hello Xas,
Most interesting, thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
So I have found a name for this both swords from my collection, binakla!

I have two other possible Bicol swords with a different blade shape, maybe you will be able to tell me more about them.
And a third binakla from my collection.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 26th March 2020, 11:38 AM

And here another binakla from the above given thread, in the meanwhile went this one in the collection from Robert.

Sajen · 26th March 2020, 11:52 AM

And here one which get sold by ebay a long time ago.

Rafngard · 26th March 2020, 12:17 PM

What I learned today is that Zorro really shouldn't have had a rapier, he should have had a binakla.

In all seriousness though, this is wonderful information.

Thanks,
Leif

MacCathain · 26th March 2020, 04:26 PM

Thank you, all, for your thoughts on this binakla.

Detlef, here's a better view of the blade profile. A shot of the spine will follow.

MacCathain · 26th March 2020, 07:20 PM

... and the spine.

Sajen · 26th March 2020, 07:57 PM

Yes, no doubt, the same blade shape! Like said, I would give it some care, clean the blade, oil the horn handle a polish up just a little bit the brass, it's worth the effort.

Regards,
Detlef

26th March 2020, 11:38 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	And here another binakla from the above given thread, in the meanwhile went this one in the collection from Robert. Attached Images

26th March 2020, 11:52 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	And here one which get sold by ebay a long time ago. Attached Images

26th March 2020, 12:17 PM	#4
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 348	What I learned today is that Zorro really shouldn't have had a rapier, he should have had a binakla. In all seriousness though, this is wonderful information. Thanks, Leif Attached Images

26th March 2020, 04:26 PM	#5
MacCathain Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 67	Thank you, all, for your thoughts on this binakla. Detlef, here's a better view of the blade profile. A shot of the spine will follow. Attached Images

26th March 2020, 07:20 PM	#6
MacCathain Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 67	... and the spine. Attached Images

26th March 2020, 07:57 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Yes, no doubt, the same blade shape! Like said, I would give it some care, clean the blade, oil the horn handle a polish up just a little bit the brass, it's worth the effort. Regards, Detlef