latest spear head aquisition

Battara · 5th March 2020, 03:39 AM

Moro armour has more carabao and brass plates. This spearhead profile looks more for chainmaille than Moro armour.

I think it is also too thin for the usual Moro spearhead. And most Philippine spears have round tangs, nothing like this.

Ian is right - I was also scratching my head.

David R · 5th March 2020, 10:20 AM

Looking around I have found Moro spears that are narrow, though not quite as narrow as mine. Regarding the tang, one pic below is of my spear tang, and the other of a known Moro spear.

Battara · 5th March 2020, 11:57 PM

As I said "most" are round tangs, and even the example of a square tang that you show is not like the hollowed spearhead - it is rounded at top of the tang. Now most of then other Philippine spearheads that are square at the base are from Lumad groups (ie. Bagobo).

Also yours in question is not just narrower than Moro spearheads, but also (so far) Moro spearheads are not hollow ground.

David R · 6th March 2020, 02:42 PM

These differences are why I posted it here. I am not pushing for it to be something it is not, I am wanting input as to what it might be.

Will M · 6th March 2020, 03:26 PM

The closest lance head yours resembles is the British 1846 with the long langets removed and a tang added. Ref: The Cavalry Lance, Alan Larsen & Henry Yallop

David R · 7th March 2020, 06:56 PM

Well it's not one of them! I am still looking for what it might be.... The problem is that the sharp end sends one message, and the tang end a different one.

The closest I have found is an Indonesian spear, with the head made out of Wootz.

Battara · 8th March 2020, 09:47 PM

Hmmmm............wootz............could it be a Persian or Indian traded spearhead then?

5th March 2020, 10:20 AM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	Looking around I have found Moro spears that are narrow, though not quite as narrow as mine. Regarding the tang, one pic below is of my spear tang, and the other of a known Moro spear. Attached Images

7th March 2020, 06:56 PM	#6
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	Well it's not one of them! I am still looking for what it might be.... The problem is that the sharp end sends one message, and the tang end a different one. The closest I have found is an Indonesian spear, with the head made out of Wootz. Attached Images Last edited by David R; 7th March 2020 at 07:11 PM.

5th March 2020, 03:39 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Moro armour has more carabao and brass plates. This spearhead profile looks more for chainmaille than Moro armour. I think it is also too thin for the usual Moro spearhead. And most Philippine spears have round tangs, nothing like this. Ian is right - I was also scratching my head.

5th March 2020, 11:57 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	As I said "most" are round tangs, and even the example of a square tang that you show is not like the hollowed spearhead - it is rounded at top of the tang. Now most of then other Philippine spearheads that are square at the base are from Lumad groups (ie. Bagobo). Also yours in question is not just narrower than Moro spearheads, but also (so far) Moro spearheads are not hollow ground.

6th March 2020, 02:42 PM	#4
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	These differences are why I posted it here. I am not pushing for it to be something it is not, I am wanting input as to what it might be.

6th March 2020, 03:26 PM	#5
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 395	The closest lance head yours resembles is the British 1846 with the long langets removed and a tang added. Ref: The Cavalry Lance, Alan Larsen & Henry Yallop

8th March 2020, 09:47 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Hmmmm............wootz............could it be a Persian or Indian traded spearhead then?