15th – 16th century, this Highland sword

corrado26 · 13th February 2020, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

And it is always a possibility this is a broken 19th century historicism replica that was thrown away to rust...

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the fotos. What are the reasons to pay such an amount of money for such an amount of rust?
corrado26

Kmaddock · 13th February 2020, 09:26 AM

Hi All,

My personal Rule for auctions is do not spend more than 300 euro on a gamble.

I guess this person had more disposable than me!!

I really appreciate that value of items is not something we discuss on this forum and I think that is great as it means we discuss the item not the value.

I am on a Japanese sword forum and the first question in a lot of threads is what is it worth? I feel it devalues the item for what it is but Japanese sword collectors are an all together different bunch.

Back to the sword

Is this sword type that rare and difficult to come by? and what sort of money would a good condition one go for.

Also as the article says the sword was found in a shed so no history at all with it.

Regards to all

Ken

cornelistromp · 13th February 2020, 02:10 PM

this one is sold for GBP 240.000 at Thomas del mar in 2007, an absolute record.

the sword of post 1 stil is a bargain

AN EXCEPTIONALLY RARE SCOTTISH HIGHLAND TWO HAND SWORD, CLAIDHEAMH MOR, THIRD QUARTER OF THE 16TH CENTURY with broad flat blade cut with a pair of fullers and incised with lines on each face, stamped with two dagger-like marks, a star, and the letters 'L K' a running wolf between, rectangular ricasso struck with a Pi mark on one side (rubbed, slightly bent), steel hilt comprising a pair of robust downward-slanting quillons of flattened-hexagonal section with characteristic quatrefoil terminals, rounded collar flattened on each side, a pair of attenuated langets filed with a series of lines at the base, small wheel pommel drawn-out on each side in the centre, and later wooden grip (cleaned throughout) 97cm; 38 1/4in blade Inv. no. E035 Remarkably few of these very distinctive swords have survived, the majority of which are preserved in institutional collections. No other examples have appeared on the market in recent years. For a discussion of Scottish two hand swords and their chronology see T. Willis 1996, pp. 16-19. Swords blades of this period with the same group of marks are preserved in the Landeszeughaus Graz, inv. nos. BL166 and BL168. £50000-80000

for other examples see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=claymore

fernando · 13th February 2020, 02:20 PM

But "at least" this is a proper entire sword, fully marked and all. A completely different business.

ariel · 13th February 2020, 06:08 PM

Well, it is outside my interests. Otherwise, my wife would have bought it for me : it’s Valentines Day tomorrow.
She does not know it yet, but she gets a fully grown white elephant.

fernando · 17th February 2020, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Well, it is outside my interests. Otherwise, my wife would have bought it for me : it’s Valentines Day tomorrow.
She does not know it yet, but she gets a fully grown white elephant.

Have you gone through with your gift, Ariel ? I this kosher enouh ?

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13th February 2020, 02:10 PM	#3
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	this one is sold for GBP 240.000 at Thomas del mar in 2007, an absolute record. the sword of post 1 stil is a bargain AN EXCEPTIONALLY RARE SCOTTISH HIGHLAND TWO HAND SWORD, CLAIDHEAMH MOR, THIRD QUARTER OF THE 16TH CENTURY with broad flat blade cut with a pair of fullers and incised with lines on each face, stamped with two dagger-like marks, a star, and the letters 'L K' a running wolf between, rectangular ricasso struck with a Pi mark on one side (rubbed, slightly bent), steel hilt comprising a pair of robust downward-slanting quillons of flattened-hexagonal section with characteristic quatrefoil terminals, rounded collar flattened on each side, a pair of attenuated langets filed with a series of lines at the base, small wheel pommel drawn-out on each side in the centre, and later wooden grip (cleaned throughout) 97cm; 38 1/4in blade Inv. no. E035 Remarkably few of these very distinctive swords have survived, the majority of which are preserved in institutional collections. No other examples have appeared on the market in recent years. For a discussion of Scottish two hand swords and their chronology see T. Willis 1996, pp. 16-19. Swords blades of this period with the same group of marks are preserved in the Landeszeughaus Graz, inv. nos. BL166 and BL168. £50000-80000 for other examples see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=claymore Attached Images

13th February 2020, 09:26 AM	#2
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi All, My personal Rule for auctions is do not spend more than 300 euro on a gamble. I guess this person had more disposable than me!! I really appreciate that value of items is not something we discuss on this forum and I think that is great as it means we discuss the item not the value. I am on a Japanese sword forum and the first question in a lot of threads is what is it worth? I feel it devalues the item for what it is but Japanese sword collectors are an all together different bunch. Back to the sword Is this sword type that rare and difficult to come by? and what sort of money would a good condition one go for. Also as the article says the sword was found in a shed so no history at all with it. Regards to all Ken

13th February 2020, 02:20 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	But "at least" this is a proper entire sword, fully marked and all. A completely different business.

13th February 2020, 06:08 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well, it is outside my interests. Otherwise, my wife would have bought it for me : it’s Valentines Day tomorrow. She does not know it yet, but she gets a fully grown white elephant.