Bugis keris pamor pattern name

[Paul B.]

Sorry but I do not see Wiji timun pamor and this is quite a recent blade. A batu lapak is visible at the sorsoran.

[David]

Originally Posted by Paul B.

Sorry but I do not see Wiji timun pamor and this is quite a recent blade. A batu lapak is visible at the sorsoran.

Yes Paul, i think Anthony is aware that this is a recent blade which is why he asked if the pamor pattern was a new invention.
Hopefully Alan will return and speak further about why he thinks it is a Wiji Timun variation.

[A. G. Maisey]

I have made Wiji Timun, I have seen Wiji Timun made many times. This blade has been made in the same way. It is surface manipulation. The reason it looks different to the usual Javanese Wiji Timun is because the "seeds" are spaced more widely and the blade geometry is different to a Javanese blade.

[Paul B.]

WT is normally an arrangment of seeds lined up at the rigde of the blade but I have come across a similar modern blade with the WT variation just like the one in question. An eye-opener.

[Jean]

The pamor pattern of these 2 modern blades is quite different from the usual Javanese Wiji Timun pattern (see pics, pamor Beras Wutah/ Wiji Timun). The name game again....
Regards

[Paul B.]

Indeed! That's why it confuses me ... a classical TM is so different from the topic example.

[A. G. Maisey]

Pamor names, like many other aspects of keris culture, are not standardised, nor are they universal. This is not unique to the keris, but is a characteristic of the extended Javanese culture and society.

Of the two keris that Jean has posted images of, I would give the one on the right as Banyu Tetes:- dripping water; the one on the left I would not attempt to name in a Javanese blade, I would describe it as simply "mlumah", or I might give it as "residual wos wutah", which way I went would depend on what impression I gained with it in my hand.

In Solo, Jawa Tengah every keris literate person I have known has named a pamor that has the "seeds" running in a line down either edge of the blade, as Wiji Timun. During the 1980's and 1990's, probably the most accomplished pande keris in producing this pamor was Yohannes Yantono, who was one of the original Anak-anak ASKI, and was probably the principal teacher of more hopeful and actual keris craftsmen in Central Jawa than any other single person. I do have a rather good example of his work, and I will post an image at my earliest opportunitY.

EDIT

Pande keris Yantono made this keris in the early 1990's, I think around 1993.

The pamor material is Arizona meteorite, I welded the meteor pieces and washed them in preparation for use as pamor material.

The pamor you see here is Pamor Wiji Timun in the typical Central Javanese interpretation.