Is it a katar dagger ?

francantolin · 24th January 2020, 05:53 PM

here some pics of the handle,

Before receiving it, I thought the side bars had been shortened but I don't think so

If it was an old on handle katar dagger , it could have a wood or bone grip like this one I found on internet,
said to be from the 17th century.

What do you think ? -Kind Regards

Frankie

francantolin · 24th January 2020, 05:55 PM

And if it's not a dagger/spear,
what could it be used for ??

Thank you !!!

Rich · 24th January 2020, 06:56 PM

Perhaps a parring dagger, like a Main Gauche ?
Rich

mariusgmioc · 24th January 2020, 08:27 PM

I suspect this is a very recent fake...

Kmaddock · 24th January 2020, 08:47 PM

Very interesting.
I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like?
I like it for the obvious age it displays
Regards
Ken

ariel · 24th January 2020, 10:22 PM

Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab.
Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days.

francantolin · 25th January 2020, 05:36 AM

Hello,
Thank you all !! ,
interesting comment about whale blubber ( I didn't know these kind of knives-tools )
Yes the blade is pretty thick with diamond profile,
made for cut and stab like a spear head, but seems really not easy to use !
not well balanced at all, the tip is heavy.
It could be used making large circles moves / dance ? )
( Maybe an early ritual-votive weapon ? )

24th January 2020, 05:53 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	here some pics of the handle, Before receiving it, I thought the side bars had been shortened but I don't think so If it was an old on handle katar dagger , it could have a wood or bone grip like this one I found on internet, said to be from the 17th century. What do you think ? -Kind Regards Frankie Attached Images

24th January 2020, 08:27 PM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	I suspect this is a very recent fake... Attached Images

24th January 2020, 10:22 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab. Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days. Last edited by ariel; 24th January 2020 at 10:55 PM.

24th January 2020, 05:55 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	And if it's not a dagger/spear, what could it be used for ?? Thank you !!!

24th January 2020, 06:56 PM	#3
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Perhaps a parring dagger, like a Main Gauche ? Rich

24th January 2020, 08:47 PM	#5
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Very interesting. I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like? I like it for the obvious age it displays Regards Ken

25th January 2020, 05:36 AM	#7
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello, Thank you all !! , interesting comment about whale blubber ( I didn't know these kind of knives-tools ) Yes the blade is pretty thick with diamond profile, made for cut and stab like a spear head, but seems really not easy to use ! not well balanced at all, the tip is heavy. It could be used making large circles moves / dance ? ) ( Maybe an early ritual-votive weapon ? )