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Old 10th January 2020, 03:38 PM   #1
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Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.
It fits perfectly.
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Old 15th January 2020, 03:09 AM   #2
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Better pics of the metal tomorrow.

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Old 15th January 2020, 10:34 AM   #3
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It fits perfectly.
I see your point. However, it does not prove its originality. Scabbards were the first thing to go due to the fragility of their wooden core, and were replaced at intervals during working life of any bladed weapon. Shaping a new scabbard for the blade did not differ from making an original one. Silver cladding might have been original or new because thin silver was also damaged as part of its exposure to the rigors of daily life. As a matter of fact, a perfectly intact scabbard of an obviously old bladed weapon ( like yours) suggests replacement, IMHO, or careful storage ( museum-like conditions) from the moment of its birth.
You got yourself a very good and fully genuine Kard, it is unquestionably authentic, but full originality of its composing parts cannot be proven. It is not a defect but just an inevitable consequence of its age and active usage.
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Old 15th January 2020, 07:19 PM   #4
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I see your point. However, it does not prove its originality. Scabbards were the first thing to go due to the fragility of their wooden core, and were replaced at intervals during working life of any bladed weapon.
I agree and understand. It could have been made to fit. Kukri get replacement scabbards from time to time, and I've replaced scabbards for several skean dhus in my shop. But even if a replacement, it is correct for the piece as far as fit. Though its style may not be an exact match.
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Old 15th January 2020, 07:21 PM   #5
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They considered my offer over the weekend and I picked it up yesterday.
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Old 15th January 2020, 07:21 PM   #6
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mariusgmioc, I can't reply until you clear out your inbox.
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Old 15th January 2020, 07:53 PM   #7
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Hopefully better pictures of the blade grain and scabbard.
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Old 16th January 2020, 04:38 PM   #8
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Thank you for the additional photos!

True inndeed that it would be almost impossible to know with certainty whether the scabbard is the original or a replacemement.
Yet, considering the style and condition of both the knife and the scabbard, I tend to believe the sabbard is the original.

Moreover, as I stated earlier, I believe it to be Turkish, not Greek or Balkan, but this is debatable since styles and skills travelled well within the Ottoman Empire.
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Old 15th January 2020, 07:42 PM   #9
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They considered my offer over the weekend and I picked it up yesterday.

Congratulations!
Very nice catch.
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Old 15th January 2020, 01:16 PM   #10
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Sorry: double posting

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