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9th January 2020, 08:50 PM
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It looks like a classic Chinese long sword. I cannot bring the correct name to mind at the moment, but I think it was called something like a "Horse Sword", midway between a pole-arm and a sword and theoretically for bringing down cavalry.
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9th January 2020, 08:58 PM
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Hello,
Thank you David, I'll look for that ! Do you think it's from the 20th century or earlier ? |
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9th January 2020, 10:44 PM
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I think that this item can be a trophy of the Franco-Chinese War of 1884-85. Then the French troops captured many of these weapons. The ornament, consisting of small circles with a dot in the center, is characteristic of peoples living in northern Vietnam near the border with China.
Could this item become an instrument of execution? Yes, he could. But this is definitely not its main purpose. Here is a very good comparison of similar items of the Vietnamese and Chinese types. https://www.mandarinmansion.com/arti...ietnamese-arms |
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10th January 2020, 11:13 AM
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Hello,
Thank you !! I saw vietnamese swords with these guards shape so I wondered about vietnamese origin... What do you think about the wraps-ropes, I hesitate to take it off and make a ''new old'' one with rattan ? David,for the name of this kind of sword, did you think about a Zhanmadao ''horse chopping ''sword ? Kind regards |
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10th January 2020, 10:09 PM
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11th January 2020, 05:37 AM
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quite likely Vietnamese
I agree with Ren Ren's assessment of the guard deco. The Vietnamese name for this weapon is dao truong.
While it could have been used as a headsman's implement, falchions of this type were not universally used for the purpose. Images of 19th cent. executions in Vietnam which I have seen in publications tend to show a saber with a narrower, tapering blade more similar to the standard Chinese military liiuyedao or "willow leaf saber". The generic Vietnamese term for weapons with these narrower curving blades is guom. The handle wrapping on this one looks like a much later or even relatively recent replacement, from its weave and the way it's applied. Many dao truong have grips wound in rattan, which distinguishes them from the flat braided fabric type of cord favored in China. |
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11th January 2020, 08:31 AM
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My Viet Truong Dao for comparison.Mine is quite well balanced and feels light and nimble, 85cm. overall, 55cm. blade, grip is wound with a twisted fibrous green cord. I've been told the viet ones frequently have engraved decorations like mine.
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18th January 2020, 10:23 PM
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