Early polearm or Lochaber axe or something else ?

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

post 6 is from Europaische Hieb-und stichwaffen , Mueller koelling.

the early halberds of my post 4 are from Hafted weapons in medieval and renaissance Europe by John Waldman

best,

Thank you for that, Jasper. I think Waldman and Snook are the classics when it comes to halberds. I had forgotten how good the former is -had to look it up again!

[kronckew]

Thanks, cornelistromp, looks like a cool book. Will have to buy a copy when I win the lottery. Expensive book.

[broadaxe]

Sorry to burst the bubble, it is a French agri-tool called coup-marc.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by broadaxe

Sorry to burst the bubble, it is a French agri-tool called coup-marc.

...and your source/reference/examples? many agri-tools were also weapons when required like bill hooks, early swiss halberds/ Scots axes, etc.

[Kmaddock]

when i looked up Coup Marc I get the following
regards
Ken

[broadaxe]

Originally Posted by Kmaddock

when i looked up Coup Marc I get the following
regards
Ken

Exactly my point: several patterns, abundant in cider regions like Bretagne.

[kronckew]

gets confusing, a well known tale about an incompetent UK executioner who took a few blows with his axe to remove a ladies noggin, he used what was in actuality a carpenters side axe, used to square beams that had an offset blade with a chisel edge and wasn't designed to chop necks. It's designed to shave a vertical surface of a log flat, not chop stuff.

By the way, searching for a carpenter's side axe i found this modern one. Looks familiar.

I seem to recall us discussing army wagon drivers carrying axes for their use which occasionally got pressed into service if they were attacked, turned out they were also carpenters side axes. apparently many are sold as 'battle axes'.

I also note the originally posted one does NOT have the offset of a carpenter's side axe.

[broadaxe]

Originally Posted by kronckew

...and your source/reference/examples? many agri-tools were also weapons when required like bill hooks, early swiss halberds/ Scots axes, etc.

Sure, well known fact. Sometimes it is pretty hard to tell between, sometimes there is no difference. As a collector and researcher, I also believed this fine example of blacksmithing was forged to be a weapon, but no. Too heavy and ill-balanced.
Years ago, a highly respected auction house even labeled a similar piece as "the ever ellusive French double socketed beheading axe", romantic but false.
Boucard, Daniel, 1998, Les Haches, pp. 210-211