Brazilian Faca de Ponta?

Sajen · 21st September 2019, 10:49 AM

A comparison.

First pic.: handle from one of my Faca de Pontas
Second pic.: handle from a possible Mineira dagger from Brazil, taken from this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...azilian+dagger
Third pic.: handle from the dagger in question

alex8765 · 22nd September 2019, 02:57 PM

Thank Sajen,
I think “Brazilian with Mediterranean blade” is the most plausible

motan · 22nd September 2019, 07:49 PM

Hi,
I don't know much about Faca Pontas, so this may be a bit off, but has anyone considered it might be a Mauritanian dagger?
Both Brazilian and Mauritanian daggers have a heavy Spanish-Moorish influence. Found some examples that have similarity, but they are for sale

carlos · 22nd September 2019, 08:19 PM

My opinion is spanish blade with brazilian handle.
I have seen similar blades un spanish knives.
Carlos

Ian · 22nd September 2019, 10:24 PM

A very interesting knife. Thanks for presenting it here.

The pierced blade and copper insert on the blade suggest to me a Spanish origin for it, but the hilt is not Spanish. The style of the hilt suggests South America, and I would favor Argentina more than Brazil based on the combination of silver and gold washed (?) areas and the patterns stamped on them. The small bolster ("button") is not typical of either Brazilian or Argentine knives AFAIK, strengthening the idea that the blade is Spanish. The metal sheath is not like anything I have seen before from Brazil or Argentina, and seems more Mediterranean to me.

I would favor an Argentine hilt rather than Brazilian for the reasons stated, and also because Argentina was a Spanish colony and Brazil was Portuguese.

Ian

alex8765 · 23rd September 2019, 01:36 PM

Thank you gentlemen. Very interesting and helpful discussion.

Alex.

21st September 2019, 10:49 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	A comparison. First pic.: handle from one of my Faca de Pontas Second pic.: handle from a possible Mineira dagger from Brazil, taken from this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...azilian+dagger Third pic.: handle from the dagger in question Attached Images

22nd September 2019, 02:57 PM	#2
alex8765 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 63	Thank Sajen, I think “Brazilian with Mediterranean blade” is the most plausible

22nd September 2019, 07:49 PM	#3
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi, I don't know much about Faca Pontas, so this may be a bit off, but has anyone considered it might be a Mauritanian dagger? Both Brazilian and Mauritanian daggers have a heavy Spanish-Moorish influence. Found some examples that have similarity, but they are for sale

22nd September 2019, 08:19 PM	#4
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	My opinion is spanish blade with brazilian handle. I have seen similar blades un spanish knives. Carlos

22nd September 2019, 10:24 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	A very interesting knife. Thanks for presenting it here. The pierced blade and copper insert on the blade suggest to me a Spanish origin for it, but the hilt is not Spanish. The style of the hilt suggests South America, and I would favor Argentina more than Brazil based on the combination of silver and gold washed (?) areas and the patterns stamped on them. The small bolster ("button") is not typical of either Brazilian or Argentine knives AFAIK, strengthening the idea that the blade is Spanish. The metal sheath is not like anything I have seen before from Brazil or Argentina, and seems more Mediterranean to me. I would favor an Argentine hilt rather than Brazilian for the reasons stated, and also because Argentina was a Spanish colony and Brazil was Portuguese. Ian

23rd September 2019, 01:36 PM	#6
alex8765 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 63	Thank you gentlemen. Very interesting and helpful discussion. Alex.