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19th September 2019, 05:59 AM
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Barrel details, unconverted Eibar pistol
Here is the top flat of the breech of the Aguirre pistol, showing the traditional Spanish octagonal-to-round stages with chiseled "wedding band" transition (here detailed with inset gold foil), along with the maker's punzón and the silver-inlaid notation of horseshoe-iron used for the forging of the barrel.
(the use of this amazingly ductile and tough material was pioneered by the almost legendary Spanish smith Nicolás Bis about a century earlier and made Spanish barrels the envy of gunsmiths and a "must-have" among well heeled sportsmen all over Europe during the 18th-19th centuries, gaining a reputation equal to the several generations of Brescia's Cominazzo family, which by then was no longer active in the trade.) |
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19th September 2019, 02:42 PM
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Guys, i don't pretend to be a brain picker but ... i see (?) signs that this pistol was born with a flintlock system. I don't know, the atypical plate cut out, as if pretending to vanish with previous screw holes, the pronounced backside of nipple bolster, the funny hammer fixation screw. Alright, alright; you can take me to the whipping post
  .- Last edited by fernando; 20th September 2019 at 08:06 AM. |
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3rd January 2020, 08:56 PM
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A little late, but...
... as a newbie this is probably not a very tactful start. But Fernando has pointed out the screamingly obvious - the snail boss just does not match the lock in any way.
On genuine Enfield rifle-muskets, the snail boss matches the lockplate very well indeed. One of the easiest ways to identify the products of Ali Bubba and his colleagues in Kabul is that the snail does NOT match the lockplate. And this example is the worst mismatch I have ever seen. Furthermore, in the photos it appears that the decoration of the backstrap does not match the remains of decoration on the tang. That could, of course, be a deficiency of the photo. In other words, I need some convincing that this is not a "bitsa". Sorry to sound so negative, but I am trying to be objective. Last edited by SchildaBrit; 3rd January 2020 at 10:42 PM. |
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4th January 2020, 11:38 AM
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4th January 2020, 09:55 PM
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Seems the topic of discussion has moved from the pistol I first posted and on to the Eiber pistol which was shown by Philip. Anyway not to worry........
An observation regarding the conversion shown by David R in #10 above....the hammer face does not squarely meet (and indeed from the pic would not hit the nipple at all) so either the hammer is wrong, or the conversion is a combination of different barrel and lock. Stu |
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5th January 2020, 06:08 AM
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"An observation regarding the conversion shown by David R in #10 above....the hammer face does not squarely meet (and indeed from the pic would not hit the nipple at all) so either the hammer is wrong, or the conversion is a combination of different barrel and lock."
Agreed. And BTW, where does that excellent summary of gun locks come from? Patrick |
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5th January 2020, 06:20 AM
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Source is Guns and Rifles of the World by Howard Blackmore 1965 Chancellor Press ISBN 0 907486010 Stu |
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