Is this a Navaja knife?

[fernando]

Alex, this is a very interesting knife, whether comparable or not to a Navaja which, as the name says, belongs in a different universe.
Let's move your thread to the Ethno forum where, judging by the culture from which your piece appears to be, our members in there may have a word to say about it.

[Sajen]

Is it locked when opened? Nice anyway!

Detlef

[kronckew]

It appears to be a slip-joint, held open only by the thumb on the extended ringed tang extension rather than the locking pull ring or lifting lever of the racheting navajas. Might be spanish, looks like it, strong Islamic influences there at one time.

Navaja appears to be fairly generic for 'razor' or 'folding knife' and a few others.

[ALEX]

Fernando,
Thanks for moving it to more appropriate forum.

Detlef,
There is no lock mechanism. As Kronckew pointed, the blade simply opens and closes by force.

Also, here is another knife, also without locking mechanism but fine racheting action on open/close. I cannot read the small sign on the small shield emblem (copsa, corse??). Have anyone seen similar? Is it also Spanish? Modern?
Thanks

[Ferguson]

Corse = Corsica

Steve

[fernando]

Originally Posted by ALEX

...Also, here is another knife, also without locking mechanism but fine racheting action on open/close. I cannot read the small sign on the small shield emblem (copsa, corse??). Have anyone seen similar? Is it also Spanish? Modern?...

Again a non genuine navaja but a folding knife from CORSICA, a Mediterranian island with a long tradition. The figure is that a Moor's head, their flag symbol, the Moor having his eyes covered with a headband before 1755 and after with his eyes uncovered representing their liberation.
I would say this is a modern piece; Vendetta meaning revenge, their traditional mythical culture.

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[kronckew]

Yup, and it's a ring-pull lock knife, with the ring missing. It's NOT in the style of Corsican folding vendetta knives either. Looks French.

[Chris Evans]

Originally Posted by kronckew

Yup, and it's a ring-pull lock knife, with the ring missing. It's NOT in the style of Corsican folding vendetta knives either. Looks French.

I think that your are right on the money, most probably made in France!

This is what Bernard Levine had to say:

"....It is called a Vendetta Corse or Corsican 'vendetta' knife. They are mainly sold in the island of Corsica, in the Mediterranean Sea. Some are made in Bastia, Corsica. Others are made in Thiers, on the French mainland. They are made in step sizes. For more details, see pages 303 and 304 of Levine's Guide to Knives, 4th Editio...."

Cheers
Chris


Cheers
Chris

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by fernando

I would say this is a modern piece; Vendetta meaning revenge, their traditional mythical culture.
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Well well well I won't say mythical. These people like to fight. They will kill you if you just look at their sisters. I prefer to not speak of theirs mothers... Corsica produced Napoleon that is a good example of man of war. The original vendetta knife is similar to the Genoese knive that is just logic as Corsica shares more with Italia than France.

Best,
Kubur

[kronckew]

Kubar's sketch shows the traditional fixed blade version - I would like to eventually own one, but they are rare and expensive as antiques. Still made today tho.

Meanwhile, the 'real' folding versions are fairly well available, and all have basically the same general shape, a narrowish single edged spearpoint blade designed for thrusting, and the reduction in grip area just behind the bolster. they come in diffeent sizes, grip scale materials, and can be locking or not.

The french Laguiole style style usually has a long clipped spine single edge, also can be locking or non-locking, note NO notch.

Found a Mythical () Corsican knife maker that combines the best of both the fixed style and is folding (back-lock), not an antique tho. They also make the fixed blade stylus versions, just a whole lot more expensive. Mine: approx. 20.5 cm. open, 100 gm, 440C, hand made, each is unique.