Spanish Percussion Pistol

fernando · 10th July 2019, 12:08 PM

Hello Samuel,
I am redirecting your thread to the European section, where your topic will hopefully receive expected answers.

corrado26 · 10th July 2019, 02:26 PM

Pedro AGUIRRE is listed in the "Neue Stöckel" twice, one at Eibar in 1763 and the other at Eibar in 1840 to 1850. The second is also listed by W. Keith Neal, Spanish Guns and Pistols at Eibar in 1841.
So this second Pedro Aguirre must be the maker of your pistol. Unfortunately it is in a very bad state so you will have much to do in order to getting this piece in a collectable condition.
corrado26

Fernando K · 10th July 2019, 04:12 PM

Hello

The correct signature is PEDRO Ma. (Maria) DE AGUIRRE
Eibar1840-1850
Ramiro Larrañaga "Historical Synthesis of the Basque Armeria", page 195

Interesting is the method of embedding metals in the legend. I guess it will be silver, for the brightness. I do not know the technique, I guess it will not be the oriental, and it does not seem to be traditional damascene

Affectionately

fernando · 10th July 2019, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando K

...The correct signature is PEDRO Ma. (Maria) DE AGUIRRE
Eibar1840-1850. Ramiro Larrañaga "Historical Synthesis of the Basque Armeria", page 195...

Muy bien Fernando, tocayo amigo

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Camoga · 11th July 2019, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

The correct signature is PEDRO Ma. (Maria) DE AGUIRRE
Eibar1840-1850
Ramiro Larrañaga "Historical Synthesis of the Basque Armeria", page 195

Interesting is the method of embedding metals in the legend. I guess it will be silver, for the brightness. I do not know the technique, I guess it will not be the oriental, and it does not seem to be traditional damascene

Affectionately

Your right, there is an A very lightly engraved above and to the right of the M.
The piece is in very bad shape but I would still like to have it on display at my house so I thank all of you guys for your help.

Victrix · 11th July 2019, 07:59 AM

You can put a little bit of walnut oil on the wood and mineral oil on the metal parts.

Fernando K · 11th July 2019, 03:10 PM

Hello

Whatever your state, any piece can be valued, and collectible. Some claim an impeccable piece, others are satisfied with what is achieved. The wood can be glued and taken to its original shape and the iron can deoxidize, the drumstick can be replaced, although it will not be original ......

Affectionately

Camoga · 11th July 2019, 08:09 PM

Thanks Fernando K and Victrix.
What would be your thoughts and using a polish like Brasso on the metal?

Jim McDougall · 11th July 2019, 09:04 PM

These kinds of pieces to be are incredibly and ruggedly charming, and for me the closest they than be kept to their 'in situ' condition, the better they reflect the history they have seen. I always believe in minimal control of any existing corrosion, with as much patination left as possible. With acid etching, it is often a fragile advance indeed.

That sunburst or starburst or whatever on the trigger guard is very similar to same seen on considerable material culture and weaponry in Mexico, and reflects the Peninsular heritage of these people. Some of my favorite arms are those of 19th c. Mexico and earlier in the colonial Spanish periods. While this is of course a Spanish made weapon, it certainly reflects the many examples which came to Mexico with industrious Spanish families seeking prosperity in Mexico.

10th July 2019, 12:08 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hello Samuel, I am redirecting your thread to the European section, where your topic will hopefully receive expected answers.

10th July 2019, 02:26 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	Pedro AGUIRRE is listed in the "Neue Stöckel" twice, one at Eibar in 1763 and the other at Eibar in 1840 to 1850. The second is also listed by W. Keith Neal, Spanish Guns and Pistols at Eibar in 1841. So this second Pedro Aguirre must be the maker of your pistol. Unfortunately it is in a very bad state so you will have much to do in order to getting this piece in a collectable condition. corrado26

10th July 2019, 04:12 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello The correct signature is PEDRO Ma. (Maria) DE AGUIRRE Eibar1840-1850 Ramiro Larrañaga "Historical Synthesis of the Basque Armeria", page 195 Interesting is the method of embedding metals in the legend. I guess it will be silver, for the brightness. I do not know the technique, I guess it will not be the oriental, and it does not seem to be traditional damascene Affectionately

11th July 2019, 07:59 AM	#6
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	You can put a little bit of walnut oil on the wood and mineral oil on the metal parts.

11th July 2019, 03:10 PM	#7
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello Whatever your state, any piece can be valued, and collectible. Some claim an impeccable piece, others are satisfied with what is achieved. The wood can be glued and taken to its original shape and the iron can deoxidize, the drumstick can be replaced, although it will not be original ...... Affectionately

11th July 2019, 08:09 PM	#8
Camoga Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 5	Thanks Fernando K and Victrix. What would be your thoughts and using a polish like Brasso on the metal?

11th July 2019, 09:04 PM	#9
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,189	These kinds of pieces to be are incredibly and ruggedly charming, and for me the closest they than be kept to their 'in situ' condition, the better they reflect the history they have seen. I always believe in minimal control of any existing corrosion, with as much patination left as possible. With acid etching, it is often a fragile advance indeed. That sunburst or starburst or whatever on the trigger guard is very similar to same seen on considerable material culture and weaponry in Mexico, and reflects the Peninsular heritage of these people. Some of my favorite arms are those of 19th c. Mexico and earlier in the colonial Spanish periods. While this is of course a Spanish made weapon, it certainly reflects the many examples which came to Mexico with industrious Spanish families seeking prosperity in Mexico.