damage keris tip

A. G. Maisey · 9th July 2019, 01:25 AM

Well Anthony, I don't see this as any major thing at all.

My apologies to everybody else for seeming to be so cavalier --- or as some might say, a "smart-ar*e".

This sort of damage occurs all the time and is very easily corrected, but first, could you give us another photo with the blade side on please?

Is the tip bent off to one side?

Is the tip chipped, is there a piece of metal missing from the tip?

Is it an old blade or a recent one?

Do you know if it has been heat treated?

Whatever the problem is, its an easy fix.

Anthony G. · 9th July 2019, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Well Anthony, I don't see this as any major thing at all.

My apologies to everybody else for seeming to be so cavalier --- or as some might say, a "smart-ar*e".

This sort of damage occurs all the time and is very easily corrected, but first, could you give us another photo with the blade side on please?

Is the tip bent off to one side?

Is the tip chipped, is there a piece of metal missing from the tip?

Is it an old blade or a recent one?

Do you know if it has been heat treated?

Whatever the problem is, its an easy fix.

Hi Alan, to answer your questions:

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This sort of damage occurs all the time and is very easily corrected, but first, could you give us another photo with the blade side on please?

I will do so tonight when back from office.

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Is the tip bent off to one side?

Tip is not bent, sort of flatten.

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Is the tip chipped, is there a piece of metal missing from the tip?

Tip is not chip and no missing metal.

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Is it an old blade or a recent one?

Newly commissioned.

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Do you know if it has been heat treated?

The lower part of the bilah seems to be heat treated. I will provide photo tonight of that part.

Anthony G. · 9th July 2019, 02:41 PM

Hopefully these photo can tell more about the condition. The circled part has been heat treated.

kai · 9th July 2019, 05:49 PM

Hello Anthony,

the hardening doesn’t seem to have been really effective - this can be straightened out.

If there was no damage to the parcel, the blade got dropped during the inspection. If so, you really should place a complaint with your customs and follow up on it; IMHO they need some feedback on handling the property of others!

Regards,
Kai

Anthony G. · 10th July 2019, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Anthony,

the hardening doesn’t seem to have been really effective - this can be straightened out.

If there was no damage to the parcel, the blade got dropped during the inspection. If so, you really should place a complaint with your customs and follow up on it; IMHO they need some feedback on handling the property of others!

Regards,
Kai

Actually my heart aches when the hard work and hours put in by the craftsmen gone to waste when it got damage in my hand even though not by my hand. Sigh......... I have so much respect for the craftsmen and keris art.

Even the painted warangka breaks into half.

Our custom usually does not touch property of others due to liabilities. And from my experience, it is the UPS courier co. fault.

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2019, 03:26 AM

I'm sorry Anthony, but the tip picture is very unclear, I need to be able to see clearly the degree that this tip is bent, and how it is bent.

However, like Kai, I doubt that this blade has been hardened, if it was hard, the point should have broken off; if it was hardened there should be a reasonably obvious colour change that would be visible in the projecting edge of the core. I can see no colour difference at all.

See if you can do a better close up photo, I cannot see enough in this one.

I need to see the blade from the edge and I need to confirm that there is in fact no metal missing from the tip.

Anthony G. · 10th July 2019, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I'm sorry Anthony, but the tip picture is very unclear, I need to be able to see clearly the degree that this tip is bent, and how it is bent.

However, like Kai, I doubt that this blade has been hardened, if it was hard, the point should have broken off; if it was hardened there should be a reasonably obvious colour change that would be visible in the projecting edge of the core. I can see no colour difference at all.

See if you can do a better close up photo, I cannot see enough in this one.

I need to see the blade from the edge and I need to confirm that there is in fact no metal missing from the tip.

i tried to take many photo but results are bad. I took this photo which slightly tilted. hope it helps.

9th July 2019, 02:41 PM	#3
Anthony G. Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 470	Hopefully these photo can tell more about the condition. The circled part has been heat treated. Attached Images Last edited by Anthony G.; 9th July 2019 at 04:15 PM.

9th July 2019, 01:25 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,016	Well Anthony, I don't see this as any major thing at all. My apologies to everybody else for seeming to be so cavalier --- or as some might say, a "smart-ar*e". This sort of damage occurs all the time and is very easily corrected, but first, could you give us another photo with the blade side on please? Is the tip bent off to one side? Is the tip chipped, is there a piece of metal missing from the tip? Is it an old blade or a recent one? Do you know if it has been heat treated? Whatever the problem is, its an easy fix.

9th July 2019, 05:49 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Anthony, the hardening doesn’t seem to have been really effective - this can be straightened out. If there was no damage to the parcel, the blade got dropped during the inspection. If so, you really should place a complaint with your customs and follow up on it; IMHO they need some feedback on handling the property of others! Regards, Kai

10th July 2019, 03:26 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,016	I'm sorry Anthony, but the tip picture is very unclear, I need to be able to see clearly the degree that this tip is bent, and how it is bent. However, like Kai, I doubt that this blade has been hardened, if it was hard, the point should have broken off; if it was hardened there should be a reasonably obvious colour change that would be visible in the projecting edge of the core. I can see no colour difference at all. See if you can do a better close up photo, I cannot see enough in this one. I need to see the blade from the edge and I need to confirm that there is in fact no metal missing from the tip.