Kindjal, filigreed sheath.

ariel · 25th June 2019, 04:15 AM

Are the fullers narrow and positioned as short- longer-short? Is the blade flat? Is there numeral 3 on the back of the scabbard?

rockelk · 25th June 2019, 04:37 AM

three fullers long short long the middle is shorter and stops three inches short of the hilt. At the tapered point the fullers converge into a vee

rockelk · 25th June 2019, 04:40 AM

The blade is not flat but is beveled. no marks, no 3. on the back side two fullers.

ariel · 25th June 2019, 05:49 AM

Without pics it is impossible to be sure, but I suspect that this kindjal may be a
fresh Georgian souvenir
Filigree is technically the simplest and cheapest decorative technique and is used widely on souvenir handles and scabbards.
If you manage to photograph it, I may change my uninformed guess.

Hoping to be wrong.

mariusgmioc · 25th June 2019, 06:41 AM

Here is my Georgian Qama (that's how they are called in Georgia).
I estimate it to be from around 1960 (but I might be wrong).
It has a very good pattern welded blade (I cleaned all the traces of rust you can see in the photos).
The inscription on the back says: "given to Imedadze from Kintsurashvili."
The filigree is of very high quality and is neither simple to make nor of lesser value.

mariusgmioc · 25th June 2019, 06:52 AM

This is another one of lesser quality.
The Qama bears the name of the owner: Aksnti Peradze (I suspect the first name is misspelled as it should have been Aksenti or Aksinti).

ariel · 25th June 2019, 09:43 AM

Yours are decent, with maker's marks, inscriptions, niello, gilding. Those were not mentioned, and I had something else in mind:-)
Eventually, we need to see the pics.

25th June 2019, 04:37 AM	#2
rockelk Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 42	Khindal three fullers long short long the middle is shorter and stops three inches short of the hilt. At the tapered point the fullers converge into a vee

25th June 2019, 04:40 AM	#3
rockelk Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 42	Khindal The blade is not flat but is beveled. no marks, no 3. on the back side two fullers. Last edited by rockelk; 25th June 2019 at 04:57 AM. Reason: update

25th June 2019, 06:41 AM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	Here is my Georgian Qama (that's how they are called in Georgia). I estimate it to be from around 1960 (but I might be wrong). It has a very good pattern welded blade (I cleaned all the traces of rust you can see in the photos). The inscription on the back says: "given to Imedadze from Kintsurashvili." The filigree is of very high quality and is neither simple to make nor of lesser value. Attached Images

25th June 2019, 06:52 AM	#6
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	This is another one of lesser quality. The Qama bears the name of the owner: Aksnti Peradze (I suspect the first name is misspelled as it should have been Aksenti or Aksinti). Attached Images

25th June 2019, 09:43 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yours are decent, with maker's marks, inscriptions, niello, gilding. Those were not mentioned, and I had something else in mind:-) Eventually, we need to see the pics. Attached Images

25th June 2019, 04:15 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Are the fullers narrow and positioned as short- longer-short? Is the blade flat? Is there numeral 3 on the back of the scabbard?

25th June 2019, 05:49 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Without pics it is impossible to be sure, but I suspect that this kindjal may be a fresh Georgian souvenir Filigree is technically the simplest and cheapest decorative technique and is used widely on souvenir handles and scabbards. If you manage to photograph it, I may change my uninformed guess. Hoping to be wrong.