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Old 17th June 2019, 09:33 PM   #1
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Very nice European blade
I agree with Jim leave it as it is or just consolidate with wire around the languet
but don't put crocodile... or just brown leather as it was originaly...
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Old 17th June 2019, 10:26 PM   #2
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It would be nice to get better pictures of the blade. If this was originally a single edged blade, that had its back ground and sharpened to modify it into a broadsword according to the traditional taste in Sudan, then to me that would indicate an imported blade, modified locally.
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Old 17th June 2019, 11:38 PM   #3
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Drac,

Go to Classics and check the most recent entries ( the lowest): splendid topics on Kaskara .
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Old 18th June 2019, 12:40 AM   #4
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Drac,

This could well be a Mahdi Era sword. In the early part the Sudanese were getting blades from whatever sources were available. This presumably European blade could have been dressed in the Kaskara style. After the British Reconquest these was a general disarmament period with mush lesser demand to cobble a sword from uncharastic blades. Plus, there was a vast "surplus" of Kaskara resulting from the Mahdist defeat.

Your blade has what could be a maker's mark just under the lower langet. Is the blade otherwise marked with Arabic/Islamic inscriptions? If not inscribed it could be of Italian origin as they were active in the Kassala area, and many of their Sudanese allies were against the Mahdi. Either way it could help in identifying its source.

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Old 18th June 2019, 01:04 AM   #5
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Thank you, gentlemen, for your comments and information; I will try to post some better pictures. I can't see any makers' marks, but I will look more closely with a magnifying glass.
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Old 20th June 2019, 06:57 PM   #6
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I hope these additional pictures help
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Old 20th June 2019, 07:17 PM   #7
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Thank you for the additional images - the blade looks like it was actually reforged from curved and single edged to straight and double edged. I have a sword that started as a gurade and went through a similar rework here:

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...hlight=kaskara

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