Miniature cannon with proofmarks

MitsuWa. · 7th April 2019, 04:31 PM

I notice the piece is lathe turned and seperate lugs added on. So it seems to be a later piece rather than a more original method of manufacturing through casting; as far as which era it may be from.

fernando · 7th April 2019, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MitsuWa.

I notice the piece is lathe turned and seperate lugs added on. So it seems to be a later piece rather than a more original method of manufacturing through casting; as far as which era it may be from.

Good points to consider, MitsuWa !

Kmaddock · 7th April 2019, 08:19 PM

Hi All
Thanks for your opinions.
I can blow through the barrel and out the touch hole, so it could be used
Looking at it under a strong magnifying glass there is none of the circular markings going all the way round, sone near the touch hole though. So I do not think it was turned on a lathe I think the main barrel is cast.

It does look like the lugs were soldered into the sides of the cannon rather than cast. As to weather this makes it a later piece I do not know.

Mark you say British proof marks , well done if you can form an opinion from my terrible photography, if they are British have you any opinion on date.

The cost was minimal and I have learned from what I have found out about signal guns so a nice buy either way.

Regards to all.

Ken

Rick · 7th April 2019, 09:16 PM

Sundial cannon ?
A day late and a dollar short again.. sigh.

fernando · 7th April 2019, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Sundial cannon ?
A day late and a dollar short again.. sigh.

Sic erunt novissimi primi

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CutlassCollector · 7th April 2019, 10:00 PM

I have no idea of the age of that particular one but they do still make them and proof them for the miniature cannon shooting discipline in the UK.

https://www.mlagb.com/canon-section/

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P14 · 7th April 2019, 09:21 PM

Those are definitely London proof house marks. To date it look at the style- loosely based on an Armstrong rifled muzzle loader c.1850's maybe?
These proof marks are for shotguns, but you can sort of see similarities

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P14 Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 7	Those are definitely London proof house marks. To date it look at the style- loosely based on an Armstrong rifled muzzle loader c.1850's maybe? These proof marks are for shotguns, but you can sort of see similarities Attached Images

7th April 2019, 04:31 PM	#1
MitsuWa. Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 22	I notice the piece is lathe turned and seperate lugs added on. So it seems to be a later piece rather than a more original method of manufacturing through casting; as far as which era it may be from.

7th April 2019, 08:19 PM	#3
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi All Thanks for your opinions. I can blow through the barrel and out the touch hole, so it could be used Looking at it under a strong magnifying glass there is none of the circular markings going all the way round, sone near the touch hole though. So I do not think it was turned on a lathe I think the main barrel is cast. It does look like the lugs were soldered into the sides of the cannon rather than cast. As to weather this makes it a later piece I do not know. Mark you say British proof marks , well done if you can form an opinion from my terrible photography, if they are British have you any opinion on date. The cost was minimal and I have learned from what I have found out about signal guns so a nice buy either way. Regards to all. Ken

7th April 2019, 10:00 PM	#6
CutlassCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Scotland Posts: 355	I have no idea of the age of that particular one but they do still make them and proof them for the miniature cannon shooting discipline in the UK. https://www.mlagb.com/canon-section/ CC