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Old 22nd February 2019, 06:22 PM   #1
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I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century
As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire
Your set is amazing. I have one very similar to the one sold by Ashoka.
North African, Algerian.
I didnt't know about the Janissaries.
I guess a translation of what is written on the blades could help... where is Ibraheem??
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Old 20th June 2020, 09:38 AM   #2
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I hope Mister Kwiatek will read this thread...
I need his help!!! Thanks

In Europe they call these trousses 'hunting trousses"...
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Old 20th June 2020, 03:40 PM   #3
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It reads, Nasr Min Allah wa Fath Qarib (Assistance from God and victory near- Quran 61:13.) This is perhaps the most common inscription on any Islamic weapon. Doesn't seem likely it was intended to inspire the user to call upon his faith in order to cut up kebabs.
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Old 20th June 2020, 06:51 PM   #4
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It reads, Nasr Min Allah wa Fath Qarib (Assistance from God and victory near- Quran 61:13.) This is perhaps the most common inscription on any Islamic weapon. Doesn't seem likely it was intended to inspire the user to call upon his faith in order to cut up kebabs.
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It depends if the meat is overcooked and hard to cut...

There is another trousse but i cannot post it as it is for sale!
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Old 20th June 2020, 07:10 PM   #5
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just cutlery, no weapons though...

there are also quite a lot on the market of the Bosniaken ( i.e. 1882-1916 period as described by me previously)

as for the Arab writing on the examples posted below by Kubur Effendi :
a neat knife but simple: normally a gentleman's knife would be more fanciful ( caligraphic).
I believe this set to be made either by a local bladesmith (from the countryside?) trying his best with an excellent result considering his skills on cold weapons (excellent} but on the art limit of decorating rather limited ... or someone trying to add something to just an average set, regardless if they belong to the scabbard...

some more nice trousse examples to look at :
https://fi.pinterest.com/alpbamsi/ot...trousse-knife/

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Old 21st June 2020, 01:06 AM   #6
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I'll move this to the miscellaneous side.
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Old 21st June 2020, 08:31 AM   #7
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This is the wrong place...
These knives are around 40cm long and they are ot cutlery.
If all the knives around 40cm should be placed in the miscellania then you need to move half of the knives from ethnographic weapons to miscellania...
to be consistent
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