where the heck is this from?

Jeff Pringle · 20th November 2018, 09:15 PM

I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...

David · 20th November 2018, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Pringle

I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...

Well Jeff, your link is only "lame" only because it is a general rule of these forums that you upload images of items you wish discussed directly to the forum. The link works fine now, but the odds are that in 5 years or so it will not and then this will be a useless thread in the archives with no illustration of the blade present to make sense of what we were talking about.

So if you could upload some photos that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Sajen · 20th November 2018, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Pringle

I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...

I know exactly what it is and will tell it soon as we have direct pictures.

Ian · 20th November 2018, 10:57 PM

Hi Jeff:

This is a well known knife and Detlef will tell you all about it. I have attached a screen shot of your picture. Next time please upload your pics directly to this forum using the Attachments feature.

Ian.

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DaveF · 20th November 2018, 11:23 PM

Well, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to pass on some information rather than just soak it up, so I hope Detlef won't mind while I just blurt out a few snippets, as I just can't contain myself

:

It's a Khodmi or Bou-Saadi from the town of Bou-Saada in Algeria.

Here's mine that I came across a couple of weeks ago:

Sajen · 21st November 2018, 12:21 AM

It's a Bou Saada/Saadi or Khodmi from Algeria. Use the given keywords and you will find many similar ones like yours. When I find the time I will take pictures from the two I have.

Regards,
Detlef

Jeff Pringle · 21st November 2018, 01:36 AM

cool, thanks; I took a vacation from the fora and forgot all the proper posting manners, as soon as I re-read the instructions and take another photo or two I'll try to be a good contributor ;-)

Lee · 21st November 2018, 02:09 AM

Lew had two of these in his collection:

http://vikingsword.com/lew/w0004/w0004.html

http://vikingsword.com/lew/w1119/w1119.html

kronckew · 21st November 2018, 10:03 AM

Mine. Some vendors are selling these as medieval eating knives. They are being made still. They are also called khodmi, if you search here there are a gazillion threads on them...

rickystl · 22nd November 2018, 04:15 PM

Hello All

Here is my well used Khodmi. Although it is still solid and sharp for use.

My main area of collecting are Ethno guns. But I do have a few blades. So I thought I thought I would use this Thread to ask you blade experts a question:

It appears that most of this style of Algerian knife have a hole in the handle. I assume this is for a leather lanyard (?) But I find it curious the hole is in the middle of the handle, rather than the end. You would think that would interfere with the finger grip. But maybe I'm missing something ? Any ideas ? Thanks.

Rick

ariel · 22nd November 2018, 09:26 PM

Algerians surgically removed their middle fingers at 13 yo, at the same time with circumcision.
First, it eliminated interference with gripping the handle of their Khodmis,
and second, it prevented them from flipping a finger to an occasional American tourist.

kronckew · 22nd November 2018, 11:31 PM

Actually the native population of the bou Saadi region are very small but wide, averaging 18 in. tall and these are actually swords, much like the dha, are used one handed, and guardless, so the lanyard is below the hand and the extra bit helps balance the sword. The surgical removal of the finger is a myth. They are all born without them. The women are known for their beauty and their silky blonde beards and violet eyes.

They are well known for their ferocious cavalry, equipped with these long cavalry khodmi swords and broad bladed lances, along with their highly intelligent and stealthy eohippus mounts, they also now use large bore .177 cal ak47 variants. Their mounts have been hiding for centuries (considered extinct by outsiders) and are extremely stealthy and make great mounts for Bou Saadi scouts, full size humans do not see them until it is too late. They are so good at it that reports that do exist are never believed. They do not let their men serve tho, they have to stay home and watch the children.

Blue lander has already posted a full length khodmi utility knife, almost a short sword, a 3in. langemesser (they are descendants of the germanic vandals that migrated to north africa.)

Kubur · 23rd November 2018, 06:50 PM

Here is mine with a nice Berber sheat.
Many of them were signed on the ricasso.
I will be very gratefull if someone (Ibraheem?) can translate mine...

kronckew · 23rd November 2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

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Many of them were signed on the ricasso.
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Like mine above

Sajen · 24th November 2018, 02:00 PM

Here mine two examples, think both are not very old, like Wayne already mentioned, they are still worked today so far I know.

Sajen · 24th November 2018, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

Mine.

Very nice example Wayne!

Is the handle made from turtle shell?

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 24th November 2018, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveF

Here's mine that I came across a couple of weeks ago:

Also a very nice older example!

kronckew · 24th November 2018, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Very nice example Wayne!

Is the handle made from turtle shell?

Regards,
Detlef

No, It's wood,nicely patinated tho.

Sajen · 24th November 2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

No, It's wood,nicely patinated tho.

Looks a little bit like this so I asked. Still very nice example!

rickystl · 24th November 2018, 03:31 PM

Nice examples guys. And the two funny posts LOL !!!! Rick.

kronckew · 25th November 2018, 12:02 PM

Just re-found examples sold as medieval eating knives

Sold blunt and undecorated, I'm guessing they are actually made in Pakistan "in the style of" real khodmi. They also used to sell a wood grip one too, guess they ran out.

Caveatr Emptor, as usual.

midelburgo · 26th November 2018, 11:11 AM

I have also a couple of those. What I found interesting is that looking closely they are made from old files, and I also read somewhere that old European discarded tools were exported to Africa because of the steel quality.

Sajen · 26th November 2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by midelburgo

I have also a couple of those.

When you don't mind please share them with us!

By my both examples you can't see that they are worked from files and I doubt it will be like this, one has had a very cratched blade which I've polished out without great problems.

Regards,
Detlef

midelburgo · 27th November 2018, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

When you don't mind please share them with us!

By my both examples you can't see that they are worked from files and I doubt it will be like this, one has had a very cratched blade which I've polished out without great problems.

Regards,
Detlef

They are on reach...I will make pictures (I have none now).

20th November 2018, 09:15 PM	#1
Jeff Pringle Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 189	where the heck is this from? I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...

20th November 2018, 10:57 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,198	Hi Jeff: This is a well known knife and Detlef will tell you all about it. I have attached a screen shot of your picture. Next time please upload your pics directly to this forum using the Attachments feature. Ian. . Attached Images

20th November 2018, 11:23 PM	#5
DaveF Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 37	Well, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to pass on some information rather than just soak it up, so I hope Detlef won't mind while I just blurt out a few snippets, as I just can't contain myself : It's a Khodmi or Bou-Saadi from the town of Bou-Saada in Algeria. Here's mine that I came across a couple of weeks ago: Attached Images

21st November 2018, 02:09 AM	#8
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 913	Lew had two of these in his collection: http://vikingsword.com/lew/w0004/w0004.html http://vikingsword.com/lew/w1119/w1119.html Attached Images

21st November 2018, 10:03 AM	#9
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,182	Mine. Some vendors are selling these as medieval eating knives. They are being made still. They are also called khodmi, if you search here there are a gazillion threads on them... Attached Images

21st November 2018, 12:21 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,775	It's a Bou Saada/Saadi or Khodmi from Algeria. Use the given keywords and you will find many similar ones like yours. When I find the time I will take pictures from the two I have. Regards, Detlef

21st November 2018, 01:36 AM	#7
Jeff Pringle Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 189	cool, thanks; I took a vacation from the fora and forgot all the proper posting manners, as soon as I re-read the instructions and take another photo or two I'll try to be a good contributor ;-)

22nd November 2018, 04:15 PM	#10
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Hello All Here is my well used Khodmi. Although it is still solid and sharp for use. My main area of collecting are Ethno guns. But I do have a few blades. So I thought I thought I would use this Thread to ask you blade experts a question: It appears that most of this style of Algerian knife have a hole in the handle. I assume this is for a leather lanyard (?) But I find it curious the hole is in the middle of the handle, rather than the end. You would think that would interfere with the finger grip. But maybe I'm missing something ? Any ideas ? Thanks. Rick Attached Images

22nd November 2018, 09:26 PM	#11
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Algerians surgically removed their middle fingers at 13 yo, at the same time with circumcision. First, it eliminated interference with gripping the handle of their Khodmis, and second, it prevented them from flipping a finger to an occasional American tourist. Last edited by ariel; 23rd November 2018 at 05:03 AM.

22nd November 2018, 11:31 PM	#12
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,182	Actually the native population of the bou Saadi region are very small but wide, averaging 18 in. tall and these are actually swords, much like the dha, are used one handed, and guardless, so the lanyard is below the hand and the extra bit helps balance the sword. The surgical removal of the finger is a myth. They are all born without them. The women are known for their beauty and their silky blonde beards and violet eyes. They are well known for their ferocious cavalry, equipped with these long cavalry khodmi swords and broad bladed lances, along with their highly intelligent and stealthy eohippus mounts, they also now use large bore .177 cal ak47 variants. Their mounts have been hiding for centuries (considered extinct by outsiders) and are extremely stealthy and make great mounts for Bou Saadi scouts, full size humans do not see them until it is too late. They are so good at it that reports that do exist are never believed. They do not let their men serve tho, they have to stay home and watch the children. Blue lander has already posted a full length khodmi utility knife, almost a short sword, a 3in. langemesser (they are descendants of the germanic vandals that migrated to north africa.) Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 23rd November 2018 at 12:02 AM.

23rd November 2018, 06:50 PM	#13
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Here is mine with a nice Berber sheat. Many of them were signed on the ricasso. I will be very gratefull if someone (Ibraheem?) can translate mine... Attached Images

24th November 2018, 02:00 PM	#15
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,775	Here mine two examples, think both are not very old, like Wayne already mentioned, they are still worked today so far I know. Attached Images

24th November 2018, 03:31 PM	#20
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Nice examples guys. And the two funny posts LOL !!!! Rick.

25th November 2018, 12:02 PM	#21
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,182	Just re-found examples sold as medieval eating knives Sold blunt and undecorated, I'm guessing they are actually made in Pakistan "in the style of" real khodmi. They also used to sell a wood grip one too, guess they ran out. Caveatr Emptor, as usual. Attached Images

26th November 2018, 11:11 AM	#22
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 256	I have also a couple of those. What I found interesting is that looking closely they are made from old files, and I also read somewhere that old European discarded tools were exported to Africa because of the steel quality.