Relic of a Javanese kriss whith original warangka

A. G. Maisey · 2nd November 2018, 09:01 PM

None of the things you mention --- plus a whole swathe of things you do not mention --- are even the smallest problem Paul.

You use a segrek to remove a gandar that comes off the gambar, if you do not have a segrek, a Swiss Army Knife saw or a keyhole saw works reasonably well.

Broken tongues are easily replaced and the replacement will be better and stronger than the original. Bambu is the best material, 5 minute araldite is the best adhesive.

I have never had any part of a gandar break deep inside a pendok that could not be removed. Usually a segrek will remove small stuck pieces, but once or twice I have needed to use a long chisel to cut out small broken pieces.

There is absolutely nothing with a keris that cannot be fixed, and the removal of a glued pendok is about as simple as any job gets.

drdavid · 2nd November 2018, 09:30 PM

Hi Alan, is there any chance you have a picture of a segrek you could show us
cheers
DrD

A. G. Maisey · 2nd November 2018, 10:16 PM

I did post pics of a segrek, and I think maybe some other tools, some time ago. I just tried a search but could not find the pics.

I'm not at home at the moment, if necessary I'll post pics of one next week. In essence, it is like a saw with reverse teeth that cut on the pull stroke, not the push stroke.

For a tool that is to be used to remove a gandar from a pendok only, it is a very easy to make one from mild steel --- it does not need to cut, only to have the teeth reverse direction so it will grip the inside of a gandar. You can also make a tool that will do the job from an old pruning saw by grinding down the blade with an angle grinder.

Sajen · 2nd November 2018, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I did post pics of a segrek, and I think maybe some other tools, some time ago.

Look here:http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...06&postcount=6

David · 3rd November 2018, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Look here:http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...06&postcount=6

Thanks Detlef!

Athanase · 4th November 2018, 12:09 AM

Hello,
Finally I succeed to separate the gandar and pendok. The glue was only on the upper part, at the junction with the wrangka.

drdavid · 4th November 2018, 03:37 AM

Thanks Detlef and well done Athanase
Drd

2nd November 2018, 09:01 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	None of the things you mention --- plus a whole swathe of things you do not mention --- are even the smallest problem Paul. You use a segrek to remove a gandar that comes off the gambar, if you do not have a segrek, a Swiss Army Knife saw or a keyhole saw works reasonably well. Broken tongues are easily replaced and the replacement will be better and stronger than the original. Bambu is the best material, 5 minute araldite is the best adhesive. I have never had any part of a gandar break deep inside a pendok that could not be removed. Usually a segrek will remove small stuck pieces, but once or twice I have needed to use a long chisel to cut out small broken pieces. There is absolutely nothing with a keris that cannot be fixed, and the removal of a glued pendok is about as simple as any job gets.

2nd November 2018, 09:30 PM	#2
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Hi Alan, is there any chance you have a picture of a segrek you could show us cheers DrD

2nd November 2018, 10:16 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	I did post pics of a segrek, and I think maybe some other tools, some time ago. I just tried a search but could not find the pics. I'm not at home at the moment, if necessary I'll post pics of one next week. In essence, it is like a saw with reverse teeth that cut on the pull stroke, not the push stroke. For a tool that is to be used to remove a gandar from a pendok only, it is a very easy to make one from mild steel --- it does not need to cut, only to have the teeth reverse direction so it will grip the inside of a gandar. You can also make a tool that will do the job from an old pruning saw by grinding down the blade with an angle grinder.

4th November 2018, 12:09 AM	#6
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	Hello, Finally I succeed to separate the gandar and pendok. The glue was only on the upper part, at the junction with the wrangka.

4th November 2018, 03:37 AM	#7
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Thanks Detlef and well done Athanase Drd