Very Unusual Kampilan

Mark · 21st January 2005, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Quite an interesting pommel !
Sea Eagle , Makara , Naga , I can't seem to decide which form it is .
The crossguard too is a very interesting shape .

Just my preference but I liked the crusty old finish , then again you can see more carving detail now .

Outstanding example Dan !

I'll bet this one feels good in your hand .

Looking at it in the photo, it looks like a parrot, but turning it upside-down it looks like Sam the American Eagle with a really severe underbite (and big round cheek guards)!

Rick · 21st January 2005, 11:10 PM

How about some top and edge pics of this hilt .
Is it pierced .

I have always wondered from which perspective these hilts should be viewed ' I'm guessing that it is working edge down .
(please pardon my futzing with your image)

It looks almost like an opening plant or flower .
Is that a metal insert in the circle ?
I love kampilan , I think they're the most lethal sword in the panoply of Moro edged weapons .
They are also uniquely different from all other Moro swords .

Battara · 22nd January 2005, 12:10 AM

Ian has a really good eye for PI stuff. He got a spear last year from Artzi 5 minutes before I got there to buy the same piece! (grumble, grumble, envy, envy

).

I especially like the carving of the eagle/parrot - ornate and not modern. Very unique. Congratulations (more envying, more grumbling

).

Andrew · 22nd January 2005, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Ian has a really good eye for PI stuff. He got a spear last year from Artzi 5 minutes before I got there to buy the same piece! (grumble, grumble, envy, envy

).

It's not just the PI stuff, Jose. Much to my chagrine.

Very nice kampilan, Dan! I really like the carvings. Beautiful.

Federico · 22nd January 2005, 04:48 AM

I wonder if the hilt is a re-carve of an original much larger kampilan pommel (an example of large pommel kampilan is in Bob's book), due to the placement of the "eye". It is somewhat lopsided in its placement, and the bottom lines are somewhat abrupt, which makes me wonder about it being a recarve. Definitely if it is, it was done long ago, and with great care. The hilt wrap was re-done, seemingly long ago, but also does not appear original. Beautiful blade, and it looks like it is hiding a very wonderful pattern. Will be interesting to see it after etching. I love the wire staples. Anyways, if you are interested in re-doing the hair, bamboo chopsticks make great plugs, and horse hair extensions (for show ponies) are readily available in black. Dont like the bright red hair sold for Chinese weapons, and black hair is just as traditional (typically even in kampilans with red hair, it would be interspersed with plain black, but many just had black hair).

21st January 2005, 11:10 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Dan How about some top and edge pics of this hilt . Is it pierced . I have always wondered from which perspective these hilts should be viewed ' I'm guessing that it is working edge down . (please pardon my futzing with your image) It looks almost like an opening plant or flower . Is that a metal insert in the circle ? I love kampilan , I think they're the most lethal sword in the panoply of Moro edged weapons . They are also uniquely different from all other Moro swords . Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 21st January 2005 at 11:27 PM.

22nd January 2005, 12:10 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Ian has a really good eye for PI stuff. He got a spear last year from Artzi 5 minutes before I got there to buy the same piece! (grumble, grumble, envy, envy ). I especially like the carving of the eagle/parrot - ornate and not modern. Very unique. Congratulations (more envying, more grumbling ).

22nd January 2005, 04:48 AM	#5
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	I wonder if the hilt is a re-carve of an original much larger kampilan pommel (an example of large pommel kampilan is in Bob's book), due to the placement of the "eye". It is somewhat lopsided in its placement, and the bottom lines are somewhat abrupt, which makes me wonder about it being a recarve. Definitely if it is, it was done long ago, and with great care. The hilt wrap was re-done, seemingly long ago, but also does not appear original. Beautiful blade, and it looks like it is hiding a very wonderful pattern. Will be interesting to see it after etching. I love the wire staples. Anyways, if you are interested in re-doing the hair, bamboo chopsticks make great plugs, and horse hair extensions (for show ponies) are readily available in black. Dont like the bright red hair sold for Chinese weapons, and black hair is just as traditional (typically even in kampilans with red hair, it would be interspersed with plain black, but many just had black hair).